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Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield (ETG User Cards 2!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532410#msg532410
« on: August 13, 2012, 12:57:08 am »
NAME:
Vangelios Shield
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
12 :rainbow
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Can not be destroyed stolen,  reduce damage by 1.
3 sacrifice the shield : copies the opponent shield.
NAME:
Vangelios Shield
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
10 :rainbow
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Can not be destroyed stolen,  reduce damage by 1.
2 sacrifice the shield : copies the opponent shield.

ART:
http://www.easyvectors.com/browse/other/ornate-heraldic-shields1
IDEA:
Vangelios
NOTES:
About this shield can tell who belongs to an RPG character, Arcangelo Vangélios a paladin of the Goddess of Victory, this fearless and brave honorable gentleman received his goddess, a divine shield,. a reward for their heroic deeds, this glorious artifact has power beyond the physical defense of other defenses such as mental and spiritual elemental, so it's easy to explain how this shield represents me, my nickname is Vangélios, in memory of my former RPG character,
 Also has many families as a symbol of famila shields, which are passed from generation to generation, and I really like it, so a shield for me is a noble brand. In the game he would represent me as my ability to surprise or dissuade opponents. He is versatile, dynamic and flexible, just as I believe to be in this game. Versatile because it is expensive platforms in mono, but cheap in rainbow, dynamic because copy  the opponent shield if the opponent has no shield or the shield is not interesting it serves as a simple reduction by 1 damage, flexible because it can be very good against some decks, and little useful against other, as are all the shields of the game. And finally, this shield is my work as a blacksmith creates its artifact and everyone knows who was the blacksmith who built it, the mark of a player. So I believe that this card represents me well in many aspects on the game, largely by the creative way it was developed.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532504#msg532504
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 06:12:32 am »
Lol, nice idea but this is completely OP in a novabow deck. Just a single nova and you can play a Vangelios shield, which will be immaterial, your opponent's shield and will have +1 DR. I don't want to imagine how it will be to have an immaterial Spine Carapace or Permafrost Shield. It needs more balancing, though it is a pretty sweet idea!
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532505#msg532505
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 06:13:51 am »
Lol, nice idea but this is completely OP in a novabow deck. Just a single nova and you can play a Vangelios shield, which will be immaterial, your opponent's shield and will have +1 DR. I don't want to imagine how it will be to have an immaterial Spine Carapace or Permafrost Shield. It needs more balancing, though it is a pretty sweet idea!

Please read the card and the notes. 

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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532506#msg532506
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 06:19:12 am »
Please read the card and the notes.

Hmm... true, as I read the notes first, it seemed it said "when it copies a shield, gains its DR1 and its immaterial status", but I was wrong here. However, even like this it is still too easy to be played in novabow decks. That's the reason we should better avoid making other cards with a cost of 12 :rainbow.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532509#msg532509
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 06:25:15 am »
Please read the card and the notes.

Hmm... true, as I read the notes first, it seemed it said "when it copies a shield, gains its DR1 and its immaterial status", but I was wrong here. However, even like this it is still too easy to be played in novabow decks. That's the reason we should better avoid making other cards with a cost of 12 :rainbow.

This would be terrible in a novabow deck.  I would never use it instead of fog. 

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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532510#msg532510
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 06:29:42 am »
This would be terrible in a novabow deck.  I would never use it instead of fog.

Keep your oppinion. I will keep mine one and I would obtain expensive and powerful shields. Playing a DR1 immaterial shield which transforms into the opponent's one by the very first turn (1 Nova & Vangelios Shield & 0 quanta) is something I would definitely do and I find it quite OP.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532511#msg532511
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 06:35:50 am »
I know the idea of copying the opponent's shield has been around, but I don't remember if a card has been made for it before.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532515#msg532515
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 06:54:30 am »
This would be terrible in a novabow deck.  I would never use it instead of fog.

Keep your oppinion. I will keep mine one and I would obtain expensive and powerful shields. Playing a DR1 immaterial shield which transforms into the opponent's one by the very first turn (1 Nova & Vangelios Shield & 0 quanta) is something I would definitely do and I find it quite OP.

 He is not OP, it is in the passive, Reduce damage by 1 and can not be destroyed,
If you enable it loses this ability and becomes the opponent's shield in full.
It is not OP, because it copies an opponent's shield, only after the opponent
puts his shield, a shield is balanced for the game.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532517#msg532517
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 07:01:24 am »
To make it more clear, the wording could be:
"Reduce damage by one. Immaterial.
0: Sacrifice Vangelios Shield to create a copy of the opponent's shield."
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532520#msg532520
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2012, 07:05:01 am »
To make it more clear, the wording could be:
"Reduce damage by one. Immaterial.
0: Sacrifice Vangelios Shield to create a copy of the opponent's shield."

nice suggestion, thank you.
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Re: Vangelios Shield | Vangelios Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42697.msg532534#msg532534
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2012, 07:41:53 am »
To make it more clear, the wording could be:
"Reduce damage by one. Immaterial.
0: Sacrifice Vangelios Shield to create a copy of the opponent's shield."

nice suggestion, thank you.

This does seem like a nice card, though it will require a bit of balancing.

One question though: how does this represent you? I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just asking
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