Succubus | Lilith

[Celidion]

It's really up to Kuro in the end. I don't mind entirely too much, which is why I'm not gonna force you or anything. just thought I'd give a little nudge anyway.

Yeah thanks, I was aware that I'd probably get something along the lines of this. But in the end, as you said, it's up to Kuro. I'm just happy you don't think it's OP.

[OldTrees]

I have been summoned.

The seduction effect is gaining 2 turns of advantage per Succubus.
That is probably worth 4+ .

5|2 stats are worth 5
7|4 stats upgraded from 5|2 stats are worth total of 6 including the upgrade cost reduction

Whip Lash is ~Snipe[2-3] with an expensive[-1], duo[-1] activation cost. So about 0-1 net increase. (assumed 0 due to 5|2->7|4 5->6 upgrade)

Total: 4|4 + 5|6 + 0|0 = 9 |10 ouch!

Suggestion: Drop the attack of the seductress down to a reasonable 2unupped|4upgrade and change casting cost to 6 |7

As for the art, you probably want to ask an artist on the forum to make a better more covered up version of Succubus|Lilith

[Celidion]

I have been summoned.

The seduction effect is gaining 2 turns of advantage per Succubus.
That is probably worth 4+ .

5|2 stats are worth 5
7|4 stats upgraded from 5|2 stats are worth total of 6 including the upgrade cost reduction

Whip Lash is ~Snipe[2-3] with an expensive[-1], duo[-1] activation cost. So about 0-1 net increase. (assumed 0 due to 5|2->7|4 5->6 upgrade)

Total: 4|4 + 5|6 + 0|0 = 9 |10 ouch!

Suggestion: Drop the attack of the seductress down to a reasonable 2unupped|4upgrade and change casting cost to 6 |7

As for the art, you probably want to ask an artist on the forum to make a better more covered up version of Succubus|Lilith

I have changed seduction to 1 turn, should be balanced now.

[Rutarete]

Well, if you changed the formula for that, i think that would be 2 less, which would be 7/8, which is just 1 more for the unupped.
I'd go with OT's suggestion of lowering the attack, but i'd only do -1 attack for both upped and unupped

[OldTrees]

@Celidion

Well, if you changed the formula for that, i think that would be 2 less, which would be 7/8, which is just 1 more for the unupped.
I'd go with OT's suggestion of lowering the attack, but i'd only do -1 attack for both upped and unupped

The unupped should cost 7 if you want to keep the 5|2 stats.

[Celidion]

@Celidion

Well, if you changed the formula for that, i think that would be 2 less, which would be 7/8, which is just 1 more for the unupped.
I'd go with OT's suggestion of lowering the attack, but i'd only do -1 attack for both upped and unupped

The unupped should cost 7 if you want to keep the 5|2 stats.

I have changed it to 7:darkness, thanks for the help. Any more feedback on this card would be great.

[Rutarete]

That's a pretty interesting article (the first one).
It's given me some ideas.

[rowcla]

the unuupped doesnt have an artist, please change this.

other than that its interesting card, i dunno about balancing though....

[Celidion]

the unuupped doesnt have an artist, please change this.

other than that its interesting card, i dunno about balancing though....

Sorry, was late when I edited it. I have corrected everything and I have found more appropriate art. I am also thinking about changing it's two abilities to 1, "Seducing/Seductive Kiss:  (maybe more)
Deal -x/-x damage and put the creature in a time bubble for x turns.

Edit: I have changed Whip Lash to Draining Kiss, reasons listed on first page.

[DevilLoss]

i like the seduction ability making it get stuck for one turn. but instead of draining kiss doing damage to a creature why not just take away its attack for all creatures untill succcbus dies the 50% of the damage taken is returned to the creatures succbus would be a great counter to growth creatures effectively taking away there attack power while still letting them gain defense als if you make the ability hit x number of creatures instead of just single target or target all id think that help you just a suggestion,

[Celidion]

i like the seduction ability making it get stuck for one turn. but instead of draining kiss doing damage to a creature why not just take away its attack for all creatures untill succcbus dies the 50% of the damage taken is returned to the creatures succbus would be a great counter to growth creatures effectively taking away there attack power while still letting them gain defense als if you make the ability hit x number of creatures instead of just single target or target all id think that help you just a suggestion,

Better off with -2/-2, -4/0 would basically be semi anti-matter ona  stick.

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Fix the ATK|HP section so that the values are separate by the divider or 'pipe' symbol, '|', instead of a slash, or '/' ('7|2' vs. '7/2')
-Continue searching for images that -might- be more appropriate.~



~ = I know it's very difficult to find... 'tasteful' images for this type of creature, but I have an alternative solution just in case... it might take more work, but I feel that this can also both satisfy the art requirement while also showing off your creativity:

http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1204804
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1204803
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1146591

Some of these are just a few silhouettes of female 'shadows' on the site; with a little bit of editing here and there, you can a pair of wings, horns, and whatnot to give off the impression of your Succubus | Lilith with ease, while also not infringing on copyrights or content-safety issues. ^^; Just an idea though...