Succubus | Lilith

[Celidion]

NAME: Succubus ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 7 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5|2 TEXT: When this card comes into play, all creatures are seduced   : Draining Kiss Target creature gains -2|-2	NAME: Lilith ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 8 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 7|4 TEXT: When this card comes into play, all creatures are seduced   : Draining Kiss Target creature gains -2|-2

ART: Dante Gabriel Rossetti http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lady-Lilith.jpg IDEA: Celidion NOTES: Seduction would basically be a 1 turn stun (or time bubble in Element's case), I'm not sure whether it should affect all creatures, or just male ones. The trouble is, we don't the genders of the majority of the cards. I am aware that a 1 turn stun would be very broken if you had more than 1 of these, but the card is also rather expensive and a "seduction limit" could be put in place. I have changed Whip Lash to Draining Kiss, because it is both more stable and not all succubi have whips, even though they are stereotyped as having them. She is also clearly airborne, as she has wings. I have updated the art, I hope it is (more) appropriate now. Inspiration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#Popular_culture SERIES: N/A

[DoomedProphet]

How much damage?

[Celidion]

How much damage?

1-4

[DoomedProphet]

How much damage?

1-4

Edit: Reread the card, got it now.

[Celidion]

How much damage?

1-4

Randomly?

Yes, as a whip and hit in many places, and it would do more damage depending where it hit.... And it's entropy, I can't just make it hit for 3+ every time, would be broken.

[DoomedProphet]

Hmm..
So first of all, it's a board-wide 2-turn stun. Feels kind of like a mini-Dimensional shield (though cards played after it will still punch yo face) while at the same time she has a Sniper ability attached to her, a random Sniper ability.

I like the idea, but I'm just still wondering if the cost and everything is right on it. I'll let more experienced card makers help you determine that.

[Celidion]

Hmm..
So first of all, it's a board-wide 2-turn stun. Feels kind of like a mini-Dimensional shield (though cards played after it will still punch yo face) while at the same time she has a Sniper ability attached to her, a random Sniper ability.

I like the idea, but I'm just still wondering if the cost and everything is right on it. I'll let more experienced card makers help you determine that.

Well the original idea was to give her Seduce, Guard basically, but without the delaying of the attacker. However, that seemed even more broken as it'd do ~5+ damage and stun an opponent, I feel this was a step in the right direction.

[willng3]

Personally I think the 2 turn stun is balanced.  It all depends on when the Succubus is played; if it's played early then I don't think its ability is very useful, which consequently means it will need to be kept in the hand until the appropriate time.  So the attack power on top of the effect is both a blessing a curse which seems to balance it just fine.

[Celidion]

Personally I think the 2 turn stun is balanced.  It all depends on when the Succubus is played; if it's played early then I don't think its ability is very useful, which consequently means it will need to be kept in the hand until the appropriate time.  So the attack power on top of the effect is both a blessing a curse which seems to balance it just fine.

I was thinking something along those lines as well, I was actually thinking about making Lilith cost 9:darkness, as she is receiving +2/+2, but I am not sure.

[Kamietsu]

Pretty nice card, though i think it's a little powerful, but mostly balanced.

I would nudge you to change the image, though. It's a little on the adult side for this forum.

[Celidion]

Pretty nice card, though i think it's a little powerful, but mostly balanced.

I would nudge you to change the image, though. It's a little on the adult side for this forum.

It's pretty tame compared to most of the things I have found sadly.  Can't rely find a picture of a succubus without it being it being a bit more... exposing.

[Kamietsu]

It's really up to Kuro in the end. I don't mind entirely too much, which is why I'm not gonna force you or anything. just thought I'd give a little nudge anyway.