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Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531642#msg531642
« on: August 10, 2012, 08:16:43 pm »
NAME:
Shrink
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-5 | 2
TEXT:
As long as Shrink's attack is negative, gain 5 HP each turn [passive]. This card gains one attack per turn [active].
NAME:
Shrink
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-7 | 2
TEXT:
As long as Shrink's attack is negative, gain 5 HP each turn [passive]. This card gains one attack per turn [active].

ART:
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IDEA:
Shrink
NOTES:
In most of the things that have to do with the forums (PvP Events, tournaments, the Cards and Ideas Section, etc.) I've never been a heavy hitter or, for lack of a better word, amazing. Despite this fact, I feel as if I've always been able to offer a little something into everything. (e.g. Card Art, PvPE, Elements Tools)

With all this in mind, I decided my card's ability portrayed me perfectly.

Reasons for ability:

-I'm never the strongest in any situation, but I will certainly give my best and as much support as possible.

-In the forums, just as this card's ability works, I believe I've become a better player over the time I've been around.

Reason for Attack difference in Unupped and Upped:

-I took a short break awhile ago and when I came back I felt a lot better about myself and the place I was in. Even though I had this better feeling, I was having trouble starting up back into the forums with posts and Art. So, I cost less (ready to help out in any situation) and I heal (help out) more often even if my help isn't the best.

Reasons for :life as Element:

-I've always been fond of Life as that Element that can really surprise and outnumber you. I can't multiply in real life, but I can sure as hell surprise people with how versatile a player/person I am.

-And in chat, I'm always the -life- of the party. /terrible joke
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« Last Edit: August 11, 2012, 11:18:07 am by Shrink »
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531646#msg531646
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 08:22:11 pm »
You've really made it tie in with you, and I like that about this card. The antimatter may be iffy, and maybe you could make them both go up 1 attack each.
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531778#msg531778
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 03:17:16 am »
You've really made it tie in with you, and I like that about this card. The antimatter may be iffy, and maybe you could make them both go up 1 attack each.

Are you referring to having the HP go up by one as well? If so, I don't think that fits in with what I've always been about. I can throw out some crazy attacks, but my defense has never been too high. (For one thing, I am Jenkar's slave :p)
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531810#msg531810
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 05:04:12 am »
I like this card. I think I could pack six Shrinks in my mono :life deck. :D
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531814#msg531814
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 05:12:09 am »
Seems a bit weak to be honest. How many games let you afford a creature that doesn't attack for seven turns and heal the opponent for 38hp? I don't think the hp gain is worth it.

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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531817#msg531817
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 05:16:32 am »
Seems a bit weak to be honest. How many games let you afford a creature that doesn't attack for seven turns and heal the opponent for 38hp? I don't think the hp gain is worth it.

I personally was thinking of a stalling mono :life deck, Ferox style. If you don't want to deal damage in the beginning, then it is better to heal yourself for 5 instead of dealing damage. :)
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531823#msg531823
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2012, 05:20:30 am »
Seems a bit weak to be honest. How many games let you afford a creature that doesn't attack for seven turns and heal the opponent for 38hp? I don't think the hp gain is worth it.

I personally was thinking of a stalling mono :life deck, Ferox style. If you don't want to deal damage in the beginning, then it is better to heal yourself for 5 instead of dealing damage. :)
Negative attack creatures heal the opponent instead of you, so unless I'm missing something or other here, shrink heals the opponent. A stall life deck often does not need offense as it can win by deck out instead.

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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531866#msg531866
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2012, 07:50:21 am »
I kind of like it, however, the unupped cost should be 1 lower. Or up the upped cost by 1.
I can imagin two uses for this creature: one in a life stall and one in an OTK (chimera-antimatter) deck. Considering how easy it is to spam this creature (via mitosis and fractal), the healing it gives may be slightly too much; I'd lower it to 4.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there seems to be two abilities: one that heals you, and one that increases its damage. Which is active, and which is passive? Or is it like Steam Machine, where one active ability controls both the damage pump and the damage decrease?

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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531915#msg531915
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2012, 11:16:37 am »
Seems a bit weak to be honest. How many games let you afford a creature that doesn't attack for seven turns and heal the opponent for 38hp? I don't think the hp gain is worth it.

Thematically, I don't see this card as the main hitter. Just like I am in the community, this card is meant to work with other creatures (players). One Adrena-anything will almost always balance out or surpass this cards attack and you are still being healed in the process. So just think, two Shrinks +three adrenafrogs - you still deal 26 damage and heal for ten HP at the same time (and SoFo can't do a thing about it)!

I kind of like it, however, the unupped cost should be 1 lower. Or up the upped cost by 1.
I think that the healing gives it a reason to be a cost of four, and with -7 attack on the unupped, this will be doing a lot of healing to the opponent over its time on the field. Still not sure if I should change the cost.

I can imagin two uses for this creature: one in a life stall and one in an OTK (chimera-antimatter) deck. Considering how easy it is to spam this creature (via mitosis and fractal), the healing it gives may be slightly too much; I'd lower it to 4.
But would you still lower it to 4 if I didn't change the cost of the cards?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there seems to be two abilities: one that heals you, and one that increases its damage. Which is active, and which is passive? Or is it like Steam Machine, where one active ability controls both the damage pump and the damage decrease?
The latter of the two abilities is supposed to be active. I forgot that I need a name for it :p
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg531976#msg531976
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2012, 03:20:58 pm »
Shrink heals you? Where was that ever stated on the card? Negative attack creatures heal the opponent. If that is indeed the case you'd need to state that on the card.

22 :life + 8 cards for 26dmg and 10 healing isn't that impressive to be honest.

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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg532014#msg532014
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2012, 05:58:24 pm »
Shrink heals you? Where was that ever stated on the card? Negative attack creatures heal the opponent. If that is indeed the case you'd need to state that on the card.

22 :life + 8 cards for 26dmg and 10 healing isn't that impressive to be honest.

It says in the first line of the card that it heals you for five HP every turn this card's attack is negative.

And again, I assumed this competition was supposed to thematically describe the user; I've never been that impressive of a user in the forums.
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Re: Shrink | Shrink [ETG User Cards 2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42652.msg532077#msg532077
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2012, 12:44:44 am »
This has a very interesting interaction with SoP.  Even more so with other adrena'd creatures and SoP.

 

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