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Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg138261#msg138261
« on: August 14, 2010, 05:45:20 am »
NAME:
Shard
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
-
ABILITY:
It looks like a crystal shard.
It seems useless, but it might be upgradable.
NAME:
Shard of Morality
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
10
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
A-B|C-B
ABILITY:
A = your HP last turn
B = your HP this turn
C = opponent HP this turn
ART:
Zanzarino
IDEA:
Bloodshadow
NOTES:
If you say "wtf creature shard", I will smite you with my AMGDARKNESSBEAM. If your brain is so limited that it cannot comprehend the concept of a shard creature, then look here (http://fighunter.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Stone). As for how it attacks, IT SHOOTZ LAZOR AND STUFFZ.
All right, now for the card itself. The math isn't really as complicated as it looks:
- Its ATK is equal to the HP you lost last turn. If you gained HP, the ATK will be NEGATIVE and HEAL your opponent.
- Its HP is equal to the difference between your HP and your opponent's HP. If you have more HP than your opponent, this Shard DIES.
- This is calculated at the end of each of your turns, right before it attacks; when you first play it, its stats are 0|1.
The ability is passive, so you can't just just give this obscenely high stats then lobotomize it so that it won't die.
I don't know about this with Fractal abuse. If necessary, I can make this card Immortal.
The virtue represented by this card is Morality. If your opponent is immoral and hurts you, this Shard gains power and punishes your opponent. If YOU are immoral (have more HP than your opponent), you would be unworthy of this Shard, and it dies.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg138276#msg138276
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 06:09:40 am »
i keep having the feeling that these should be squared and in a catchy formula...
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg138325#msg138325
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 07:25:10 am »
so...the more damage you take per turn, the better it gets?

is this supposed to be a one time thing (on cast) or static (like scarab N health)? because if its static, the biggest thing going for it is putting you on the same level (HP-wise) if you're falling behind because if you cast it while you're ahead, it will essentially die at the end of turn
i dont think its complicated nor overpowered at all but i do think you're just making it more complicated than it really is

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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg138496#msg138496
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 02:59:11 pm »
is the ATK|HP calculated each turn or just the turn it is first played?

the best use i see for this card would be to sit and wait doing a huge set up without doing damage to the ai.  then when almost dead, plop one of these down, it will probably have an obscene amount of atk (equal to how much damage you took last turn, which should have been alot at this point) and HP (up to 199 hp) so it will take a whipping and keep on ticking, if you have a grav pull or PU+chimera, maybe a miracle, would be a laugh riot.  i guess it would be the possum strategy.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg138872#msg138872
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 11:51:52 pm »
This is calculated at the end of each of your turns, right before it attacks; when you first play it, its stats are 0|1. And I doubt that this'll have obscenely high ATK unless your opponent deals 80 damage to you in one turn; but if you face those OTK-type decks, you'd probably be dead before you can get the Shard out.

chimera
This could be a way to stabilize the Shard when it has huge stats. But as I said above, the only way this could be problematic is when your opponent deals a lot of damage to you in one turn, and you have to survive that turn. And Chimera has Gravity Pull anyways, so it won't be too OP.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg139058#msg139058
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 09:35:11 am »
It costs quite a bit, considering it can only do anything if you are getting beaten. Perhaps lower the cost?

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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg139296#msg139296
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 07:14:51 pm »
It costs quite a bit, considering it can only do anything if you are getting beaten. Perhaps lower the cost?
It's possible to achieve OTK with this card, if your opponent deals 25 damage to you and you drop 4 of those. You should know that the Shard of Morality attacks BEFORE it dies.

Oh, and the ability is passive, so you can't just just give this obscenely high stats then lobotomize it.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg139702#msg139702
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 08:09:11 am »
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This Card is Crucible Approved for the Shard Madness! Competition.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg140073#msg140073
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 09:01:00 pm »
LOL, Kuro, I somehow find it amusing when I saw you trying to imitate Kael's tone... :P

Although I am disappointed. Not even a single creature shard other than this, though Hyroen said he was gonna make one.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg140535#msg140535
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 12:41:55 pm »
LOL, Kuro, I somehow find it amusing when I saw you trying to imitate Kael's tone... :P
I'm starting to think that it's a result of these :earth icons. They make me feel more... monotonous? >.>

Although I am disappointed. Not even a single creature shard other than this, though Hyroen said he was gonna make one.
To be honest BS, it's very difficult to come up with some ideas that not only work, but are also fluid in both theme AND originality. Creature shards are in this small category - unless you have something that has a real nice spice to it, the flavor of it is overlooked by stereotypes (i.e. - "ITZASHARDNOTCREATURENOOBZOR" posts).

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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg140646#msg140646
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 04:09:25 pm »

mo·ral·i·ty   /məˈrælɪti, mɔ-/  Show Spelled[muh-ral-i-tee, maw-]  Show IPA
–noun, plural -ties for 4–6. 
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character.

mor·al   /ˈmɔrəl, ˈmɒr-/  Show Spelled[mawr-uhl, mor-]  Show IPA
–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.

vir·tu·ous   /ˈvɜrtʃuəs/  Show Spelled[vur-choo-uhs]  Show IPA
–adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.

What does a creature have to do with Morality?
Why do you think your shard holds to the Virtue  of Morality?

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Re: Shard | Shard of Morality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11255.msg140654#msg140654
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 04:21:32 pm »
Although I am disappointed. Not even a single creature shard other than this, though Hyroen said he was gonna make one.
I did say I was going to make one, patience my dear Bloodshadow. I have already submitted my Shard for the competition and do not want yet ANOTHER Shard taking the page space of my other suggestions. I'll work on it however, and post it in due time.
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