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Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220387#msg1220387
« on: January 16, 2016, 08:14:15 pm »
NAME:
Scapegoat
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 6
TEXT:
Whenever one of your creatures is targetted, Scapegoat is targetted instead.
NAME:
Scapegoat
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 8
TEXT:
Whenever one of your creatures is targetted, Scapegoat is targetted instead.

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NOTES:
Technical stuff:

  • The targetting is redirected even if scapegoat is immortal (it requires you to have a non-immortal creature to be targetted though).
  • The ability is passive.
  • Doesn't affect AoE.
  • If multiple scapegoats are in play, targetting is redirected to the one that acts first (that is, the one that is earlier in the attack order).
  • It affects you targetting your own creatures.

Competition stuff:

This card is intended to be used in rushes to make them more resilient against CC, which is one of the main weaknesses of this archetype. The cost and drawbacks of the ability makes it specially suited to PSNbows that don't rely on buffing its own creatures.
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« Last Edit: January 17, 2016, 06:01:47 pm by andretimpa »
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Re: Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220391#msg1220391
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 08:39:01 pm »
I like the idea, but I feel like it's a bit too efficient stat: cost wise.  You can't really drop the defense without defeating the purpose, but maybe raising the cost by 1?
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Re: Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220393#msg1220393
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016, 09:12:57 pm »
I like the idea, but I feel like it's a bit too efficient stat: cost wise.  You can't really drop the defense without defeating the purpose, but maybe raising the cost by 1?



For 4 quanta (2 supernovas, or pends or whatever.) 16 HP shield that also damages opponent.

For 6 quanta, 25 hp shield.


I think, for half the defense of 4 quanta, and a different effect (targeting instead of creature attacks), the cost is fine for the defense.

Additionally, it's a weaker form of Reflective Shield, which also costs 2 quanta and protects the owner from a whole bunch of spells. This one protects some creatures for only 8 hp. 2 lightnings can take it out.

« Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 09:16:44 pm by Arum »
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Re: Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220400#msg1220400
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2016, 11:02:03 pm »
@Arum

Those examples don't really work well with this card. GP draws in attacks from creatures, which don't count as targeting and thus wouldn't affect this. This draws in spells and creature abilities, which both can ignore GP.

A better example would be something like an AoE Quint. If this is in play, other ally creatures are essentially Quinted with the exception of AoE spells/permanents (Flooding) and your own buff spells.




What happens with multiple Scapegoats?
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Re: Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220401#msg1220401
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 11:04:59 pm »
I was referring more to the attack.  Even without the ability it's a bit too beefy, especially for entropy.
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Re: Scapegoat | Scapegoat [New Year Resolutions] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60966.msg1220404#msg1220404
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2016, 11:14:08 pm »
What happens with multiple Scapegoats?

As I said in the notes, the active scapegoat is the one that is earliest in the attack order. Also, if you try buffing your own creatures you will buff the scapegoat instead (it shares this downside with quint, but can be an interesting combo with BB).

I'm considering doing +1 cost. I modelled the balance after graviton guards, exchanging 1 attack for the ability, but maybe the extra health should be more expensive in entropy because of the thematic differences between it and gravity.

EDIT: did +1 cost
« Last Edit: January 17, 2016, 06:02:07 pm by andretimpa »
Every time a graboid evolves, an elemental gets his wings.
:gravity Guild (old), War 9 & 13 (gen) / :time Brawl 2 & 3, War 7 & 14 / :death War 8 & 12 / :fire Brawl 4 / :entropy Brawl 5 / :darkness War 10

 

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