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Re: Round 3: Static Sky | Crackling Sky https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237417#msg1237417
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 05:10:24 pm »
Balancing, not in how they interact with each other, but in terms of comparing cost (2 :earth, 1 card) vs effectiveness. Is 6 turns of delay and +20 hp on a single target equivalent in value to a 60% chance 1 turn delay en masse? Are the effects similar in impact/is choosing between them worth it? Is there an obvious superior choice?

Let's assume you're using Basilisk Blood for soft CC on your opponent. Assume also that your opponent has 5 creatures.
With a 60% chance to hit, an average of 3 creatures are delayed for 1 turn. If we use Static Sky for 6 turns consecutively, we can delay 3 random creatures for 6 turns.
So 6 Static Sky = 3 Basilisk Blood.

If your opponent has 10 creatures, you can delay 6 of them for 6 turns.
So 6 Static Sky = 6 Basilisk Blood.

You can see that the effectiveness of Static Sky scales upwards with the number of creatures effected.

So I'd say that how Static Sky balances against Basilisk Blood depends on how many creatures your opponent has. Less creatures, Basilisk Blood is better; more creatures, Static Sky is better.
The number of creatures your opponent has can vary wildly, and the issue is finding the equilibrium point at which the effectiveness of the two cards is equal. For a 60% chance of paralysis, that number is 10. I'd wager that most people have less than 10 creatures on the field at a time, though, so to balance that maybe the chance needs to be increased.



However - if you're looking to target one specific creature, Basilisk Blood will always be better. If you're looking to target your own creatures, Basilisk Blood will be better because of the +20 to HP. And Static Sky will hit your creatures no matter what, you don't get a choice.

Overall, I think Basilisk Blood will generally be better no matter what, because it can target and it gives +20. But if you don't have any creatures and are in a desperate situation, Static Sky could be useful.

To balance.... increase the cost of Basilisk Blood xD

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Re: Round 3: Static Sky | Crackling Sky https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237422#msg1237422
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 06:34:00 pm »
You could have taken the easy way out and gone with pink sky =  :entropy.  You have a random element in the effect to book.  When I saw the mistake in the table I assumed the mistake was with the card image.
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Re: Round 3: Static Sky | Crackling Sky https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237423#msg1237423
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 06:35:24 pm »
You could have taken the easy way out and gone with pink sky =  :entropy.  You have a random element in the effect to book.  When I saw the mistake in the table I assumed the mistake was with the card image.
That was my original idea, and hence the mistake in the table. I changed to Earth after clicking submit :P

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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237804#msg1237804
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237810#msg1237810
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2016, 06:30:21 pm »
Reminds me of my autocast series, though I doubt I was the first to have that idea nor was I the last before you.
The idea to make the card uncastable outside of it's conditions is interesting...
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237811#msg1237811
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237815#msg1237815
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237819#msg1237819
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2016, 07:32:39 pm »
If you had 3 of these in your hand, would they all play, and only the last one have gravity pull, considering mechanically gravity pull can ply be played on one creature per side at a time?
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1237822#msg1237822
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2016, 08:27:15 pm »
If you had 3 of these in your hand, would they all play, and only the last one have gravity pull, considering mechanically gravity pull can ply be played on one creature per side at a time?
My intention would be that only one of them plays at a time.

However, the conditions stated on the card are quite clear - it doesn't take into account weapons, shields, adrenaline or anything else - just the sum of your opponent's creatures' attack, and your HP. So they would all play at once, with only one of them having the gravity pull effect.

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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1238500#msg1238500
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2016, 03:46:20 am »
How to win in Card Design War:
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2. Realize :air is banned.
3. Whatever, just put it in :earth.
4. ???
5. Make Linkcat cry.

Seriously though, the reason I'm here is that I wanted to say that using a red X to denote that a card is uncastable feels very right. I could easily see it in the game. The design of the card also matches the art very well.
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Re: Round 4: Savior | Savior https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1238523#msg1238523
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 10:05:48 am »
Thank you very much Linkcat <3 love you

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Re: Round 5: Ancient Effigy | Glacial Effigy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62211.msg1238671#msg1238671
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2016, 10:12:42 pm »

ROUND 5
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