Offering Stone | Sacrificial Altar [On the Shoulders of Giants]

[JonathanCrazyJ]

NAME: Offering Stone ELEMENT: Death COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: : Offering Kill target living creature you control. Create a Boneyard.	NAME: Sacrificial Altar ELEMENT: Death COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: : Sacrifice Kill target living creature you control. Create a Graveyard.

ART: Offering Stone Sacrificial Altar IDEA: jonathancrazyj NOTES: "Living" creatures do not include Undead. The following creatures are Undead: Skeleton, Elite Skeleton, Mummy, Elite Mummy, Bone Dragon, Ivory Dragon. The NEW Boneyard / Graveyard is not triggered by the death that created it. It is created AFTER the creature is Offered / Sacrificed. Offering Stone art is "Deer's Skull with Pedernal" by Georgia O'Keeffe, 1936 Sacrificial Alter art is "From the Faraway, Nearby" by Georgia O'Keeffe, 1938 SERIES: "On the Shoulders of Giants" Card Design Competition.

[foxrain4]

both Offering Stone and Sacrificial Alter art are
really good and fitting with the death background,
its like they are real cards inside the elements game.

the offering, sacrificing creatures synergy really well
with other death cards.

and by sacrificing creatures to get Boneyard,
which can again combo with Offering Stone's ability,
its like comboing a combo.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

It's a card designed to make Boneyard and graveyard much more playable.
Though it might be a little OP still, might have to make the ability cost a little more. Tough to balance.

One option is that death effects cause by Offering / Sacrificing do NOT increase Bonewall (because the bones are being used to create a graveyard instead).

[Ginyu]

This outclasses Boneyard and Graveyard in every way.

I would drop the cost of the unupped to 1 and make the ability free, without generating yards, but effecting Bone Walls.
The upped could generate two death effects every time, with a casting cost of 2 , but still a free ability.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

This outclasses Boneyard and Graveyard in every way.

I would drop the cost of the unupped to 1 and make the ability free, without generating yards, but effecting Bone Walls.
The upped could generate two death effects every time, with a casting cost of 2 , but still a free ability.

I feel that removes the niche of the card, because it simply becomes another death effect generator. The idea was that you could run these in a deck WITH graveyards, to make mass skeleton production a viable tactic. You'd still need to have ways of playing / producing non-skeleton creatures in order to PRODUCE skeletons with this though, so it wouldn't be too OP.

Also, the only properly viable decks that use Graveyard are things like CCYB or similar mutation decks, and in those, splashing graveyard might still be a better option. No sacrifice needed, can start producing skeletons on the turn it is played. This, on the other hand is designed to make a whole range of skele-production decks faster.

Tbh, I just love Boneyard and Graveyard as concepts, and am just sad that they aren't really viable tactics. This aims to change that.

My fave idea is a time duo. This, some Bonewall, De-Vu, Eternity. To start with, eternity rewinds De-Vus that have already split, while Stone/Alter kills the other half. Onece the tactic progresses, you can start using Eternity on the Skeletons to give random creatures. The bad creatures can just be sacrificed because they are no longer Skeletons.

[Ginyu]

But seriously, why should anyone ever use Boneyard, when this card generates them every turn for less quanta AND by generating death effects on its own? You can simply use a Photon to generate your first with this card. You didn't specify on the card it does only generate a yard if a Skeleton is sacrificed, but even then it is much simpler to just run some Skellies instead of a yard, because they already supply the first fodder.

Might you explain what CCYB is? I do only know Scaredgirl's Rainbow FG that uses Graveyards well.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

It still needs tweaking, but the underlying idea I think is valid. One option is to only have it able to target living creatures (no skele, mummy, bone dragon).

CCYB is "Creature Control, Why Bother" and, though now outdated, was an effective FG farmer. Similar to SG's I think, though not particularly familiar with SG's.

[ddevans96]

Here is the last commonly used mod of CCYB, to my memory, with a link to the original in the opening paragraph. It didn't use Graveyard and doesn't bear much resemblance to SG's rainbow or similar decks, though there are some things in common.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Here is the last commonly used mod of CCYB, to my memory, with a link to the original in the opening paragraph. It didn't use Graveyard and doesn't bear much resemblance to SG's rainbow or similar decks, though there are some things in common.

You are right, I was thinking of another FG killer. Possibly SG's actually lol.

EDITS TO CARD:
- Increased unupped to 3 Cost.
- Increased upped to 4 Cost, reflecting the fact Graveyard costs more than Boneyard. The fact this this requires sacrifices and a turn's wait, I believe does not merit the full 5 cost of the main upgraded card.
- Ability can no longer be used on Skeletons, Mummies, Bone Dragons or their upgrades. Only able to target "Living" creatures.