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Necronomicon | Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg169916#msg169916
« on: October 03, 2010, 08:03:00 pm »
NAME:
Necronomicon
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Sacrifice a creature: Draw a card.
NAME:
Necronomicon
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Sacrifice a creature: Draw a card.
Heal yourself equal to sacrificed creatures HP.
ART:
IDEA:
Sabbah
NOTES:
* Works just like Hourglass except you pay with a creature you control on the field instead of quanta.

* Can be used in sync with graveyard to recycle skeleton / elite skeleton. Can also be used to get rid of Antimattered creatures as well as disposing malignant cells. Or simply for opting a new card instead of an existing creature. Also boosts Bone Wall.

* If it looks overpowered, casting cost or the number of creatures to sacrifice to draw a card can be increased.

* If it looks underpowered, it can be changed so that the ability can be used any amount of times in a turn.

* An alternative activation cost could be paying 5 to 10 life to draw a card.

* The conceptual idea is gaining wisdom through book of the dead by paying a malevolent price. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon)

My Other two cards for the competition:
Light's Retribution | Light's Retribution (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13703.0.html)
Ethereal Pigeon | Ethereal Pigeon (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13656.0.html)

* Feedback much appreciated. Thanks.
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Part of a trio submission for 'Another Epic 3 Card Design Challenge (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13483.new.html)' competition.


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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg169936#msg169936
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 08:20:39 pm »
Ummm I think that it should be, lose 20-30 life, draw 3-4 cards.
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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg169945#msg169945
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 08:26:56 pm »
Ummm I think that it should be, lose 20-30 life, draw 3-4 cards.
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Depending on the situation, paying half of your life might be safer at low hp levels. By making it a percentage (50%) instead of static damage, this card alone can never kill you. Besides, giving card drawing ability to death element should have a decent penalty.
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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170200#msg170200
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2010, 02:42:48 am »
Strangely enough, this card is really similar to another card idea that has already been submitted.

Bargain with Darkness
(http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10792.0.html)
Necronomicon might not pass the "unique card idea" requirement for the Competition.

EDIT: Card cost has been changed from halve current HP to creature sacrifice

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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170217#msg170217
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2010, 02:59:42 am »
Euuugh.  I doubt I'd play it if it ever made it; Death has no direct healing options ATM.  I could see a 10hp decrease, but half is very dangerous, especially since midgame is where control decks begin to really apply the pressure.

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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170227#msg170227
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 03:12:58 am »
Strangely enough, this card is really similar to another card idea that has already been submitted.
Thank you for the heads up. I will change it.

Edit: Allright, i went with my 2nd idea. I hope this is unique because i would be doomed if i'll have to go through 60+ pages of card ideas. I made forum wide search for "sacrifice a creature"
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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170247#msg170247
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 04:27:18 am »
I don't think there is a death card that would do drawing, that should belong to time.
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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170428#msg170428
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 11:40:54 am »
I don't think there is a death card that would do drawing, that should belong to time.
I disagree, and I'm even a firm believer in elements keeping certain characteristics to themselves (i.e. healing for life).  Card drawing isn't a hugely time-oriented thing (in fact, I'd consider its signature ability to be reverse time, not card drawing), and I think the ritual sacrifice to gain an extra draw fits well with death.

However, doesn't this card kind of nullify itself?  If you draw this card, you now must sacrifice a creature to get to the card you would have otherwise gotten, had you left this card out of the deck...  Sundial and hourglass counter this by serving dual purposes (sundial) and lasting more than one turn at no significant cost (hourglass).

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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170435#msg170435
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 12:04:44 pm »
pepokish hit it on the head.  That, and why is it a permanent?  I much prefer this version to the old one, but as it stands, even Precognition lets you see your opponent's hand.

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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170475#msg170475
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 01:33:24 pm »
That image does fit best with death because of the scorpion. Just to throw this out there someone should come up with an idea dealing with scorpions.
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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170483#msg170483
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 01:49:37 pm »
A Death card dealing with scorpions?  Have you used the recent Deathstalker card?

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Re: Necronomicon - Necronomicon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.msg170490#msg170490
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 02:02:30 pm »
i am saying maybe use the book to create scorpions but of course not to many because then it would be OP.
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