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C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1127991#msg1127991
« on: February 28, 2014, 02:03:00 am »
NAME:
Bio Protector
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
15
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 6
TEXT:
Diverse Protection:
The first creature of each new element to be played becomes immaterial.
NAME:
Bio Protector
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
13
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 7
TEXT:
Diverse Protection:
The first creature of each new element to be played becomes immaterial.

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NOTES:
Team Cards: Anubis, Quintessence, Vampire Stilleto, Nova

To elaborate, the first creature card of each of the 12 elements to be played (from the hand) after this card becomes immaterial instantly. Any creatures played before this are irrelevant and do not gain immortality. This card does not become immaterial when you play it, but the next life creature will.

The effect does not stack with multiple copies. If you're protector dies, the effect will not take place for a new-element creature. If you then chose to play another protector, the old creature will not suddenly become immaterial, but the next creature of that element will. Basically, death merely "pauses" the effect until another one is present. So in any way or case, no matter how many protectors you have in play, only up to 12 creatures can become immaterial.

This affects both players. Firstly, so it isn't completely OP. And secondly, have you ever thought about how dreadful a quint could actually be. And now I'll just buff my dune scor... sh*t. Or just look here for more proof.

How is this related to Quintessence?

... Did you seriously... I don't even... I give up...

But how is this related to Nova?

It takes the mechanic of "one for each element" but applies it to immateriality instead of quanta. That's how.

This was originally gonna be an other permanent but then it got changed and now we have this. It does the same thing, but still has the :rainbow cost. And the cost is that high to stop the OPness of a mass quint.

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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128014#msg1128014
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 06:55:01 am »
How is it connected to vampire stilleto?
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128015#msg1128015
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 06:56:53 am »
How is it connected to vampire stilleto?
It only needs to relate to two of the four cards.

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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128016#msg1128016
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 06:58:19 am »
How is it connected to vampire stilleto?
It only needs to relate to two of the four cards.
Ohhhhhh, ok thanks.
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128017#msg1128017
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 06:59:59 am »
How is it connected to vampire stilleto?
It only needs to relate to two of the four cards.
Ohhhhhh, ok thanks.

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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128018#msg1128018
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 07:03:33 am »
Well, technically it can be related to Anubis, since it is a creature, whose ability leads to other creatures getting immortality.
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128019#msg1128019
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 07:04:52 am »
Yes, thats why I thought it had to be related to all 4 cards. Nyway. Interesting card this one is.
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128099#msg1128099
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 09:02:24 pm »
I think it should be 13 and 10. Yes, mass quint can easily be made OP, but this isnt just mass quint. This is one creature from every element. So, in a semi-realistic deck we would need 6 Entropy pendalums, 6SN, life mark, and about 4 of these in there. Then we need to play the x (x is less then or equel to 12.) cards after, which will probably mean drawing them. Those cards would also need to be cheap though because of the quanta supply. For anubis not to be more powerful then then card, and anubis already is UP (imho it is anyway, but a fact is its underused) this card needs to be lowered to 13/10. To draw this its also 1 damage, not to mention if it dies then the opponents CC cards will be stocked up and your probably gonna be screwed. Of course this would change for against AI.

How does this card combo with hatch and evolve?
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128102#msg1128102
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 09:12:03 pm »
I think it should be 13 and 10. Yes, mass quint can easily be made OP, but this isnt just mass quint. This is one creature from every element. So, in a semi-realistic deck we would need 6 Entropy pendalums, 6SN, life mark, and about 4 of these in there. Then we need to play the x (x is less then or equel to 12.) cards after, which will probably mean drawing them. Those cards would also need to be cheap though because of the quanta supply. For anubis not to be more powerful then then card, and anubis already is UP (imho it is anyway, but a fact is its underused) this card needs to be lowered to 13/10. To draw this its also 1 damage, not to mention if it dies then the opponents CC cards will be stocked up and your probably gonna be screwed. Of course this would change for against AI.

How does this card combo with hatch and evolve?
Fate egg is a time creature, if it is the first time creature then it gets immaterial, if not then no immaterial. Using its ability doesn't change that.
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128104#msg1128104
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 09:16:22 pm »
I think it should be 13 and 10. Yes, mass quint can easily be made OP, but this isnt just mass quint. This is one creature from every element. So, in a semi-realistic deck we would need 6 Entropy pendalums, 6SN, life mark, and about 4 of these in there. Then we need to play the x (x is less then or equel to 12.) cards after, which will probably mean drawing them. Those cards would also need to be cheap though because of the quanta supply. For anubis not to be more powerful then then card, and anubis already is UP (imho it is anyway, but a fact is its underused) this card needs to be lowered to 13/10. To draw this its also 1 damage, not to mention if it dies then the opponents CC cards will be stocked up and your probably gonna be screwed. Of course this would change for against AI.

How does this card combo with hatch and evolve?
Fate egg is a time creature, if it is the first time creature then it gets immaterial, if not then no immaterial. Using its ability doesn't change that.

But if I hatch the egg and the result is not a time creature, will the next egg I play get immaterial too?
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128106#msg1128106
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 09:19:33 pm »
I think it should be 13 and 10. Yes, mass quint can easily be made OP, but this isnt just mass quint. This is one creature from every element. So, in a semi-realistic deck we would need 6 Entropy pendalums, 6SN, life mark, and about 4 of these in there. Then we need to play the x (x is less then or equel to 12.) cards after, which will probably mean drawing them. Those cards would also need to be cheap though because of the quanta supply. For anubis not to be more powerful then then card, and anubis already is UP (imho it is anyway, but a fact is its underused) this card needs to be lowered to 13/10. To draw this its also 1 damage, not to mention if it dies then the opponents CC cards will be stocked up and your probably gonna be screwed. Of course this would change for against AI.

How does this card combo with hatch and evolve?
Fate egg is a time creature, if it is the first time creature then it gets immaterial, if not then no immaterial. Using its ability doesn't change that.

But if I hatch the egg and the result is not a time creature, will the next egg I play get immaterial too?
No, you already played the first egg meaning you already played the first time creature.
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Re: C-C-C-Combomaker x3 - eljoemo & Skotadi Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53900.msg1128110#msg1128110
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 09:39:09 pm »
Technically hatch, evolve, or even mutate would not cause a possibility for this cards effect to activate because the 'new' creature was not actually played (from hand). On that same logical path, PUing a pre-existing creature also should not activate this card's ability, but this is just a hunch.

Also, on a note fairly unrelated to this, the title for this thread should probably be Bio Protector | Bio Protector
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 09:40:57 pm by ChemMan13 »

 

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