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Should I include a non-PSD, non-vector, but still customizable version?

Yes, please. This would be most helpful.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037614#msg1037614
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2013, 06:38:20 pm »
How do you make a good looking multicolor gradient?  I made a few marks for the Hybrids project, and basically resorted to layering two of the gradients over each other, rasterizing, and erasing parts.  This does not work well for more complicated things.

What program are you using? In photoshop I made (basically) two layers. One for the top of the gradient(all one color) and one for the bottom layer(all one color). Then on the top layer I put a layer mask on it with a gradient from the top(black) to the bottom(white). This makes it get the gradient affect without having to rasterize the layers.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037617#msg1037617
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2013, 06:46:15 pm »
Using photoshop CS4.

I saw the layers you have, and was able to do some manipulation, but when it came to for example, making 4 colors melting into each other, I wasn't able to get anything that looked remotely right.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037675#msg1037675
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2013, 10:01:41 pm »
Using photoshop CS4.

I saw the layers you have, and was able to do some manipulation, but when it came to for example, making 4 colors melting into each other, I wasn't able to get anything that looked remotely right.

Melt into each other in what way? You should be able to do that via four layer, and have the top three have layer masks, like this:
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037677#msg1037677
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2013, 10:03:56 pm »
Using photoshop CS4.

I saw the layers you have, and was able to do some manipulation, but when it came to for example, making 4 colors melting into each other, I wasn't able to get anything that looked remotely right.

Melt into each other in what way? You should be able to do that via four layer, and have the top three have layer masks, like this:

thats pretty much what i mean, i just cant figure out how to work with layer masks.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037679#msg1037679
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2013, 10:08:02 pm »


thats pretty much what i mean, i just cant figure out how to work with layer masks.

Layer masks can be a bit of a trouble to get used to. I'm still getting used to them myself. I don't know how much you know about photoshop and layers but anything that is black in a layer mask is hidden, while anything white is shown. So my top layer(white) has everything hidden but the bottom left corner. Same goes for the black layer with the top left corner. As for the pink, I already had the black and white covereing the entire left side of the image so i only needed to do a simple gradient on the mask to make it visible in the lower right corner. And the bottom-most layer doesn't need any mask because the layers above it are covered all the areas i don't want that darker green color to be.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037680#msg1037680
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2013, 10:13:06 pm »


thats pretty much what i mean, i just cant figure out how to work with layer masks.

Layer masks can be a bit of a trouble to get used to. I'm still getting used to them myself. I don't know how much you know about photoshop and layers but anything that is black in a layer mask is hidden, while anything white is shown. So my top layer(white) has everything hidden but the bottom left corner. Same goes for the black layer with the top left corner. As for the pink, I already had the black and white covereing the entire left side of the image so i only needed to do a simple gradient on the mask to make it visible in the lower right corner. And the bottom-most layer doesn't need any mask because the layers above it are covered all the areas i don't want that darker green color to be.

im a newbie at photoshop (got it for free as part of a package when i needed dreamweaver) and have just been messing around. i know about black vs white in layer masks, but you have grey as well. i also still have to hunt for everything. could i get the file you used for your example in the pic?
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037686#msg1037686
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2013, 10:21:43 pm »
Gray just means that is becomes partially transparent. It goes from 100% transparent(black) to 100% opaque(white). Anything in between is just partially transparent(like changing the opacity on any layer). And sure, here is the file:

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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037688#msg1037688
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2013, 10:37:36 pm »
Gray just means that is becomes partially transparent. It goes from 100% transparent(black) to 100% opaque(white). Anything in between is just partially transparent(like changing the opacity on any layer). And sure, here is the file:

http://www.mediafire.com/?752d2mbd64un7fl

yeah i know thats what it meant, i just couldnt figure out how to make it. i was having some success using soft brushes, but then i had to rely on a steady hand to be symetric.  thanks for the file.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037695#msg1037695
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2013, 10:58:28 pm »
Gray just means that is becomes partially transparent. It goes from 100% transparent(black) to 100% opaque(white). Anything in between is just partially transparent(like changing the opacity on any layer). And sure, here is the file:

http://www.mediafire.com/?752d2mbd64un7fl

yeah i know thats what it meant, i just couldnt figure out how to make it. i was having some success using soft brushes, but then i had to rely on a steady hand to be symetric.  thanks for the file.

A good idea is to use the gradient tool. Press (G) on your keyboard and if the paintbucket tool is highlighted, just click and hold over it to open up the menu to access the other tools in that option. Gradient tool is a square with a gradient effect in it.

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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1037699#msg1037699
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2013, 11:15:16 pm »
Gray just means that is becomes partially transparent. It goes from 100% transparent(black) to 100% opaque(white). Anything in between is just partially transparent(like changing the opacity on any layer). And sure, here is the file:

http://www.mediafire.com/?752d2mbd64un7fl

yeah i know thats what it meant, i just couldnt figure out how to make it. i was having some success using soft brushes, but then i had to rely on a steady hand to be symetric.  thanks for the file.

A good idea is to use the gradient tool. Press (G) on your keyboard and if the paintbucket tool is highlighted, just click and hold over it to open up the menu to access the other tools in that option. Gradient tool is a square with a gradient effect in it.



i had tried that, for some reason it would automatically set colors for me... i chose reset gradients, and the black-grey-white one showed up, so now i should be able to work it. thanks again.
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Re: Element Marks Vector *Updating!* https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6475.msg1124335#msg1124335
« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2014, 06:28:40 pm »
Testing the translucent blending in this rainbow gif because antialiasing in a gif often causes niggles if you don't pick the right settings. If anyone wants different transitions from fade I can do that.

Actually looks perfect, and the dithering is better than I thought it would be. The edges wont blend as well in a quote though, due to different background colours. No room for darkness and light in a rainbow I'm afraid.
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