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Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg219965#msg219965
« on: December 09, 2010, 02:43:33 am »
Twin universe is either bugged or misworded.

Ok so the text of tu says that it will make an EXACT copy of the target creature, yet when you TU an otyugh that can use its ability, it cant use its ability and acts as if it has summoning sickness, this has killed me more then 1 time VS DM and is getting a bit annoying, i just want to know now is it intentional or not?

(note, its not just otyugh, its all cards with an ability)

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg219994#msg219994
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 03:37:11 am »
The text does say "summon" so it will act as if it was just played from your hand, i.e. summoning sickness.

Also, some statuses have special mechanics with TU, so there are instances where it is not exact.  You can't have two creatures with Gravity Pull, and 'mutation' will cause a Twin to have additional stats and a new skill.

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg219997#msg219997
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 03:39:10 am »
The text does say "summon" so it will act as if it was just played from your hand, i.e. summoning sickness.

Also, some statuses have special mechanics with TU, so there are instances where it is not exact.  You can't have two creatures with Gravity Pull, and 'mutation' will cause a Twin to have additional stats and a new skill.
both are game features, the first is rule, and the second is that mutants have the passive ability "mutant" that makes that happen.

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg220003#msg220003
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 03:42:07 am »
The text does say "summon" so it will act as if it was just played from your hand, i.e. summoning sickness.

Also, some statuses have special mechanics with TU, so there are instances where it is not exact.  You can't have two creatures with Gravity Pull, and 'mutation' will cause a Twin to have additional stats and a new skill.
both are game features, the first is rule, and the second is that mutants have the passive ability "mutant" that makes that happen.
Agreed.  That is why you can't read too much into EXACT.

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg220004#msg220004
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 03:43:25 am »
"Summoning sickness" (new term, please) is required for TU. Imagine pegasus+TU.

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg220005#msg220005
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 03:44:37 am »
you can already pull that combo off, just with a turn delay

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg220009#msg220009
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 03:52:44 am »
Now imagine it without a turn delay. Do you see where there might be a problem in that?

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Re: Twin universe is either misworded or bugged https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17273.msg220011#msg220011
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 03:53:36 am »
if anything at least the word exact should be removed from the card.

 

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