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scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg40191#msg40191
« on: March 18, 2010, 04:52:19 am »
well i was in the trainer and the ai used a PU on my scarab and apparently he still gets the +N whenever i add a scarab but i do not when he copies it again

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg40316#msg40316
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 01:37:08 pm »
If you could give some evidence to this (screenshot), that would be great. So your AI opponent cast TU once on your scarab and passed the turn, at which point its scarab grew from 3/x to 3/x+n (n=# of your scarabs). Am I understanding this correctly?

A scarab is only supposed to grow at the end of turn when it takes its action. It grows/shrinks to the number of total scarabs its controller controls, not counting buffs/debuffs.

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg40594#msg40594
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 10:18:58 pm »
i am saying that it was not as in he gets 3/x where x is number of scarabs in play(this was in trainer btw) i will try to duplicate it

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg41006#msg41006
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2010, 03:17:37 pm »
You mean that the scarab had the Hp equal to the scarab that was TU'd +1? Because if that's the case, it is the way it should be.
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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg41319#msg41319
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2010, 02:11:57 am »
so who is right j mizzle or you?

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg71181#msg71181
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 03:27:45 pm »
I do see this in the "known bugs" section, but I decided to revive this thread just to point out that the bug still exists in trainer at least.  It's not specific to PUing your own scarabs, either...



Gemini PUd a total of four scarabs during that game and ate a total of three of mine.  When he PUd his first, the scarab health was way high, it might've been higher than all scarabs played in the game.  And then it didn't drop to 1 at the end of his turn.

Again, sorry for reviving the dead thread but I'm certain this is not the way the developers intended PUing scarabs to work.  If I meet him again I'll keep closer track.

Edit: Elidnis PU's my 6/13 scarab when I have 10 and he has 0.  It drops to 6/4 at end of turn (should be 6/1).  A few turns later he PUs the same scarab (now 6/25) when I have 23 and he has 0.  It drops again to 6/4 at end of turn (should again be 6/1).

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg72039#msg72039
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 10:44:26 pm »
Edit: Elidnis PU's my 6/13 scarab when I have 10 and he has 0.  It drops to 6/4 at end of turn (should be 6/1).  A few turns later he PUs the same scarab (now 6/25) when I have 23 and he has 0.  It drops again to 6/4 at end of turn (should again be 6/1).
When it PU's the scarab it also copies what it has devoured up to that point.  So, the original scarab's 13 health = 10 (number of scarabs the controller has) + 3 (the additional health for each devour).
When the AI got a hold of it the health changed to 4 = 1 (number of scarabs the controller has) + 3 (what that original scarab devoured).
That is how it should be.

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Re: scarab bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4113.msg72063#msg72063
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 11:19:48 pm »
That is how it should be.
You're absolutely right in the Elidnis case.  That prolly explains the screenshot as well.  I'll gather more evidence before making outrageous bug claims.

 

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