Rustler + Shard of Rediness [unconfirmed]

[Schwabba]

Hi,

when i use a Shard of Rediness on a Rustler, the Rustler loses his "This skill can be used multiple times per turn" abillity.

[miniwally]

That's the point so you can't have infinite quanta, not a bug.

[maxflow2]

I tried this as well and find it to be pretty silly. There's nothing on Shard of Readiness that says anything about not allowing you to use the ability multiple times per turn; there's way too many hidden rules in this game as it is. Infinite life quanta isn't really a huge deal since there aren't any spells that scale with how much you have, like with Fire. This could otherwise enable a pretty interesting combo with something like Dissipation Shield or Fractal - nothing super broken though.

[killsdazombies]

I tried this as well and find it to be pretty silly. There's nothing on Shard of Readiness that says anything about not allowing you to use the ability multiple times per turn; there's way too many hidden rules in this game as it is. Infinite life quanta isn't really a huge deal since there aren't any spells that scale with how much you have, like with Fire. This could otherwise enable a pretty interesting combo with something like Dissipation Shield or Fractal - nothing super broken though.

quoted for lawls.
with what your saying i can win with EM on turn 2.
1 rustler
1 sor
1 life tower
5 light dragons.
bam you win on turn two.


Its a nerf so that you cant do that.

[willng3]

Not to mention you could use this in conjunction with Dissipation Field and never take a hit from un-momentum'd creatures, you could use a Miracle every turn, etc.  Not a bug.

[Korugar]

I tried this as well and find it to be pretty silly. There's nothing on Shard of Readiness that says anything about not allowing you to use the ability multiple times per turn; there's way too many hidden rules in this game as it is. Infinite life quanta isn't really a huge deal since there aren't any spells that scale with how much you have, like with Fire. This could otherwise enable a pretty interesting combo with something like Dissipation Shield or Fractal - nothing super broken though.

quoted for lawls.
with what your saying i can win with EM on turn 2.
1 rustler
1 sor
1 life tower
5 light dragons.
bam you win on turn two.

Its a nerf so that you cant do that.

Small correction: it would be jade dragons, not light dragons.

Not to mention you could use this in conjunction with Dissipation Field and never take a hit from un-momentum'd creatures, you could use a Miracle every turn, etc.  Not a bug.

While I agree with the premise of this statement, you couldn't actually use Miracle every turn, unless you have a way of converting life quanta back to light quanta.

[willng3]

I tried this as well and find it to be pretty silly. There's nothing on Shard of Readiness that says anything about not allowing you to use the ability multiple times per turn; there's way too many hidden rules in this game as it is. Infinite life quanta isn't really a huge deal since there aren't any spells that scale with how much you have, like with Fire. This could otherwise enable a pretty interesting combo with something like Dissipation Shield or Fractal - nothing super broken though.

quoted for lawls.
with what your saying i can win with EM on turn 2.
1 rustler
1 sor
1 life tower
5 light dragons.
bam you win on turn two.

Its a nerf so that you cant do that.

Small correction: it would be jade dragons, not light dragons.

Not to mention you could use this in conjunction with Dissipation Field and never take a hit from un-momentum'd creatures, you could use a Miracle every turn, etc.  Not a bug.

While I agree with the premise of this statement, you couldn't actually use Miracle every turn, unless you have a way of converting life quanta back to light quanta.

Ah yes, right you are; got myself confused there.

[killsdazombies]

I tried this as well and find it to be pretty silly. There's nothing on Shard of Readiness that says anything about not allowing you to use the ability multiple times per turn; there's way too many hidden rules in this game as it is. Infinite life quanta isn't really a huge deal since there aren't any spells that scale with how much you have, like with Fire. This could otherwise enable a pretty interesting combo with something like Dissipation Shield or Fractal - nothing super broken though.

quoted for lawls.
with what your saying i can win with EM on turn 2.
1 rustler
1 sor
1 life tower
5 light dragons.
bam you win on turn two.

Its a nerf so that you cant do that.

Small correction: it would be jade dragons, not light dragons.

Not to mention you could use this in conjunction with Dissipation Field and never take a hit from un-momentum'd creatures, you could use a Miracle every turn, etc.  Not a bug.

While I agree with the premise of this statement, you couldn't actually use Miracle every turn, unless you have a way of converting life quanta back to light quanta.

bah lol fail, anyway still samething applies, you could win matches much fastser and much easier to the point of it being OP

[maxflow2]

That combination requires 8 exact cards to be drawn and doesn't even win on turn 2. It's not even hard to disrupt. I'd say the more dangerous deck would use Aether mark and play Fractal to fill its hand with Jade Dragons - it'd be a lot more consistent but still not absurdly powerful. Turn 3 and 4 wins already exist in the game - they just don't come up consistently enough to be an issue. I feel like this would likely be similar.

The Dissipation Field possibilities are more frightening, I'll admit, but not insurmountable. Permanent destruction is pretty common. If you're adding Enchant Artifact into the mix, that makes things even less consistent.

Power level issues aside, my main qualm is the lack of anything in the game indicating why this wouldn't work, asides from the "lol infinite quanta? i dont think so" sentiment. I feel like unintuitive hidden rules like this should be avoided if possible as they're often an indication of poor design.

[EvaRia]

Well, if you're that great a game designer, I would like to ask you where you would put it?
I honestly have no idea.

[asymmetry]

Power level issues aside, my main qualm is the lack of anything in the game indicating why this wouldn't work, asides from the "lol infinite quanta? i dont think so" sentiment. I feel like unintuitive hidden rules like this should be avoided if possible as they're often an indication of poor design.

Common sense. The same "not announced nerf solution" is in adrenalined arsenics, and no one ever (?)  complaint so far.

[smuglapse]

The same "not announced nerf solution" is in adrenalined arsenics, and no one ever (?)  complaint so far.

Hmm, looks like I have to upgrade to the deluxe model sarcasm detector because my basic one doesn't know how to handle this statement.