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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg148715#msg148715
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2010, 10:41:22 pm »
And it is not only a visual error, last tournament, one of my opponents had a dune scorpion with momentum, and after I used purify I became purified for 0. Yes, it was a blue sign, i forgot to take a screenshot, because I wanted to test something else: what happens if I play a card now?

And, after playing a card, I got a normal 1 neurotoxin sign.

So I think zanz has to take a look at it, because that looks like a bug to me.
Purify should automatically give you a +1 or +2.  So if you were at 0 either you got hit again by the scorpion or there is a bug with the purify card.  A screenshot would definitely be needed.

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg154359#msg154359
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 07:20:03 am »
Having 0 is impossible right after purify, you must have been hit again. It is possible to have been flagged for neurotoxin while you still have a blue mark.

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg154726#msg154726
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 09:04:58 pm »
Having 0 is impossible right after purify, you must have been hit again. It is possible to have been flagged for neurotoxin while you still have a blue mark.
I was testing in trainer with a deck that had unupped purifies, and I played 2 of them, so I had +2 regeneration counters. Then the CPU played a poison, which should only take away the two regeneration counters. But instead, it showed a poison counter that said 0. Shouldn't there be no counter at all?
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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg155534#msg155534
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 02:54:41 am »
Did you read it right?
Pretty sure Avenger's comment was to The dictator and not to the original post

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg155536#msg155536
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 03:00:33 am »
Did you read it right?
Pretty sure Avenger's comment was to The dictator and not to the original post
It may have been. I thought he was talking to me though. If not, my apologies.
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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg159430#msg159430
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2010, 06:37:54 am »
Did you read it right?
Pretty sure Avenger's comment was to The dictator and not to the original post
It may have been. I thought he was talking to me though. If not, my apologies.
I forgot to use quotes, but...
You did't mention neurotoxin, the Dictator did. So, guess...

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg161244#msg161244
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2010, 05:29:38 pm »
But, the whole discussion is a little pointless, because I said myself that I was hit by a dune scorpion, thus bringing the counter to zero.

At that time, so my next turn, I had a blue (purify) counter of zero, but when playing a card, I was poisoned for one.

The bug is the fact that it doesn't make sense to have neurotoxin applied when you aren't poisoned.
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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg161282#msg161282
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2010, 06:41:38 pm »
But, the whole discussion is a little pointless, because I said myself that I was hit by a dune scorpion, thus bringing the counter to zero.

At that time, so my next turn, I had a blue (purify) counter of zero, but when playing a card, I was poisoned for one.

The bug is the fact that it doesn't make sense to have neurotoxin applied when you aren't poisoned.
So you are suggesting that neurotoxin doesn't apply if you have a positive counter?  That's a hard nerf.

Of course, at the very least, the counter should turn yellow so you know it is in effect.

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg161584#msg161584
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2010, 05:18:31 am »
But, the whole discussion is a little pointless, because I said myself that I was hit by a dune scorpion, thus bringing the counter to zero.

At that time, so my next turn, I had a blue (purify) counter of zero, but when playing a card, I was poisoned for one.

The bug is the fact that it doesn't make sense to have neurotoxin applied when you aren't poisoned.
I was bored and have a lot of free time so I try to recreate the scenario.

1. I got hit by a blessed dune scorpion.
2. I played purify to stop the neurotoxin
3. In the same turn, I played two cards (phase shield and momentum on the scorpion). The neurotoxin counter didn't go up because purify stops it. End turn.
4. I got hit again by the scorpion and the counter shows zero.
5. In the same turn, I played a card (bone wall) and the counter goes up.

At a glance, I agree with smuglapse, but I have a feeling that there is a bug when you have more than one early purify counter but I don't know how to explain the details yet. Will do more testing later...

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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg161613#msg161613
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2010, 06:44:12 am »
Well, you can be poisoned with a neurotoxin without it causing immediate damage. Playing cards would be the equivalent to moving and making the poison spread. I enjoy how you only need to get in one hit for it to work.
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Re: Purify Counter Bug https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9581.msg161627#msg161627
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2010, 07:28:58 am »
Okay, did more testing and I find few interesting facts (well, at least it was interesting to me!).
In my previous post, I used unupgraded purify so the counter is +1. Now I'm using the upgraded purify (+2 purify counter)


1. I managed to play 3 early purify before the dune scorpion appear (finally!). I buffed the scorpion with momentum. End turn.
2. The purify counter goes down to +5 and I was inflicted with neurotoxin.
3. In the same turn, I played 5 cards reducing the purify counter to zero - but the game didn't show any counter at all unlike the previous scenario. :o (Interesting fact #1)
4. Still in the same turn, I played the 5th card - no neurotoxin counter showed. This suggest that I was somehow free of neurotoxin without ever playing a new purify.  :o (Interesting fact #2)
5. In the next turn, obviously the scorpion can hit me due to momentum. But the moment the scorpion hit me, the neurotoxin counter went straight to +2. :o (Interesting fact #3)
6. I didn't played any cards so the subsequent scorpion's attack increased the neurotoxin counter to +3.
7. I wanted to test further with a new purify in my hand but the stupid AI ate his own scorpion...  >:(


I've done few more testing and the same thing happened - including the stupid AI ate his own scorpion, but that's not the point.
  • #3 might just be a visual bug, but doesn't it contradict what happen in my previous testing?
  • #4 looks like a bug that might caused by #3 because neurotoxin should be still in effect
  • #5 is definitely a bug because I can't find the reason why the neurotoxin counter suddenly goes up to +2. And I don't quite understand how my HP goes from 84 to 82.
Appreciate if someone else could provide feedback and/or do more testing to confirm my suspicion.

 

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