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Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [not a bug] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283408#msg283408
« on: March 04, 2011, 11:08:23 pm »
Black Hole still restores health (1HP per quantum drained) even when Sanctuary blocks the quanta drain.

Is this by design?  It goes against the wording of Black Hole.  In analogous situations when the opponent doesn't have quanta, Black Hole doesn't heal.

Also, it creates strange situations where you'd be better off without Sanctuary than with it.  For example, Gravity Nymph can pretty much exploit an opponent with Sanctuary for up to 24hp/turn.  Without Sanctuary, at least the opponent would run out of quanta eventually, so the healing would stop.  (Curse you, Dark Matter!)

(From this thread, it sounds like Nightmare has a similar side-effect, doing damage even if cards don't get added.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21502.msg300002#msg300002)


Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283410#msg283410
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 11:13:00 pm »
sanctuary doesn't effect opponent's hp, so not a bug, just a game mechanic
devourers still give you :darkness, even though they don't eat your opponent's quanta (I think so, not sure if it's still like this)

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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283414#msg283414
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 11:16:34 pm »
Thank goodness. Otherwise, my deck would be completely useless.
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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283699#msg283699
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 08:14:14 am »
It shouldn't. If Pests doesn't give Dawkness quanta, why should Black Hole give HP?

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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283789#msg283789
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 01:55:07 pm »
Confirm this, just happened to me. As BH isn't draining quanta, it shouldn't be healing.

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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283790#msg283790
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 02:01:33 pm »
The text of Black Hole reads, "Absorb 3 quanta per element of the opponent.  Gain 1 HP per absorbed quantum" (Italics mine).  Thus, Black Hole should not be giving life if it's not absorbing quanta.  This thread can be confirmed.
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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [confirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg283840#msg283840
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 04:13:02 pm »
Dammit. This is just being unfair. Sanctuary is literally RUINING several cards in the game. A single PA and I would be forced to ragequit.
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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [confirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg284492#msg284492
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 07:08:29 am »
Not sure if it matters, but I can also confirm this bug

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Re: Black Hole restores health even if Sanctuary blocks quanta drain [confirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22297.msg287092#msg287092
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 09:24:03 pm »
Its not a bug, its intended.

 

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