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flynn4711

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no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226681#msg226681
« on: December 17, 2010, 06:29:57 pm »
Imagine i have 5 Devourers out, they're buried. Opponent has no creatures. I play Pandemonium to get rid of the card to make room in my hand for a Fractal card use. No creature is affected. After i played Pandemonium i am unable to unbury any Devourer. When i play a different card now right after Pandemonium, Deflagration for example, i am again able to unbury the Devourers and target them with Fractal.

Seems that using Pandemonium without affecting any creature stalls the use of creature skills (at least Devourers) somewhat until some other card is played or the turn is ended.

I encountered this situation several times already.

Re: no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226702#msg226702
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 07:04:15 pm »
Instance of this:
Before pand:

After pand:


Everything looks normal, but I couldn't play any cards from my hand, and couldn't unbury the devourers. I used the sundial ability successfully, and then everything returned to normal.

So, yeah. There's something to this, and AFAIK it isn't known.

suxerz

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Re: no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226712#msg226712
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 07:20:10 pm »
Ooo.. A new bug! Good job flynn & salamence.
I've tested in trainer but it didn't have the same result. Needs more testing and identify each of the instances. Is it only pest? - does graboid counts? How about other permanents and using upped pandemonium too?

Re: no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226719#msg226719
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 07:32:16 pm »
When I tried this while my opponent had scarab (myself with 3 burrowed devs), the scarab died and all was perfectly normal. Did your opponent play anything sux? that may have been why it didn't do it.


List of stuff I've discovered (To be editted):
- If any creature is hit by the pand, this won't happen.
- If a creature was hit with a pand earlier the same turn, this won't happen.
- Works with Burrowed or Quinted critters.
- If you only have 1 Burrowed/Quinted critter, it won't happen. (But flynn got it to happen with only one dev. o_0)
- Any permanent can break the lock if it's ability is used and not canceled. 
- If the ability of a permanent is used, then canceled, the lock stays. (But canceling Poseidon can break the lock. o_0)
- Doesn't happen with upped pand, and opponent having 2+ quinted critters.

flynn4711

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Re: no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226733#msg226733
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 07:52:10 pm »
as i mentioned above: obviously only happens when no creatures are affected by Pandemonium.

i tried this again in the trainer:

before Pandemonium:


after Pandemonium:


i couldn't unburrow the Devourer.
Though I could play Deflagration after. But after playing Deflagration i still couldn't unburrow the Devourer. I had instances where i could unburrow the Devourer again after playing Deflagration.
I only have the unupgraded cards in my deck.


EDIT: obviously being a bit late after the last post  ::)

suxerz

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Re: no creature skill can be used after Pandemonium [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17777.msg226738#msg226738
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 08:00:47 pm »
Hmm.. this is interesting. Maybe this is also what can cause desync when pande played in PVP?
Sorry I can't be much help, too lazy to do more test. :P

 

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