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discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50056#msg50056
« on: April 08, 2010, 03:07:36 am »
So I had the bright idea of using adrenaline on a flying discord, wondering what would happen. And the answer is... nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not even any extra attacks. I confirmed this on an upped discord in the trainer and an unupped discord in the game. Neither of them got any extra attacks or did anything different once adrenalined.

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50076#msg50076
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 04:04:22 am »
Huh? Not even extra attacks? How much ATK did Discord have again?
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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50086#msg50086
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 04:14:54 am »
unupped it has 4attk so it should do 4,3,2. upped it has 6attk so it should do 6,4,2 (according to the wiki). The second and the third attacks are missing for both.

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50088#msg50088
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 04:17:11 am »
Since I got no Discord to try it on can you get screenie please?

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50093#msg50093
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 04:29:57 am »
I gave it a try, and had some... interesting results.  I've never messed around with flying Discord, before -- so I'm not sure what's normal, and what isn't.

When I played a flying discord, it's attack would range anywhere from 2 to 4, but it would never attack more than once per turn.  This occured consistently, whether adrenaline was used or not.

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50094#msg50094
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 04:32:07 am »
This is a weird bug... Discord is actually granted the extra attacks, but they are spread out over several turns, forcing it to only take one action per turn. Please test it on other weapons to see which, if any, also behave similarly.

I gave it a try, and had some... interesting results.  I've never messed around with flying Discord, before -- so I'm not sure what's normal, and what isn't.

When I played a flying discord, it's attack would range anywhere from 2 to 4, but it would never attack more than once per turn.  This occured consistently, whether adrenaline was used or not.
I think you were experiencing the strangeness that I described above. Without Adrenaline, flying Discord behaves normally, dealing full damage 100% of the time.

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50106#msg50106
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 04:58:00 am »
I think you were experiencing the strangeness that I described above. Without Adrenaline, flying Discord behaves normally, dealing full damage 100% of the time.
Yes, that is exactly what I experienced. 

After playing 2 flying Discords with Adrenaline, I thought I'd try playing a normal flying Discord with no Adrenaline, and I thought the damage was still not 4.  Even the non-Adrenaline Discord gave random amounts of damage.  However, I did attempt to recreate it, and could not... so I'm going to assume that I was just really tired, or it was some sort of strange fluke.



As for the other weapons, I tested every single one and could not find any obvious flaws with the Flying Weapon / Adrenaline combo.

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Re: discord and adrenaline https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5010.msg50113#msg50113
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 05:19:10 am »
OK, after some experimenting this is what I have. All this is done in the trainer using the More Power button, I don't think that has any effect on anything, just putting the variables out there. So far I have only tested using unupped cards.

I tried a few other flying weapons but none of them seemed to have any problem. It seems to be just Discord. jmizzle is right that it cycles through the attacks. First it hits for 4, then 3, then 2. It has something to do with Discord's ability because a lobotomized Discord attacks normally - 4,3,2 all in one turn. Curiously, it remembers which attack it was on after being lobotomized. If, say, last turn it attacked for 4 and this turn you lobotomize it, it will attack for only 3,2 not the full 4,3,2 this turn. After that it will be back to normal, i.e. expected non-buggy behavior with adrenaline.

 

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