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Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2579.msg21001#msg21001
« on: January 28, 2010, 07:47:16 pm »
I was just playing a level 5 match against Shades and he was using the Dusk Mantle shield.  I believe I had two skeletons and Eternity at the time, and the shield was causing my Eternity to miss.  The text on the Dusk Mantle specifically states that it may cause attacking creatures to miss, so I don't see why it should affect my weapon.  In order for it to block a weapon, shouldn't it say "attacking target"?  The only cards that can be used against non-creatures specifically say "target" rather than "creature" (such as Drain Life/Holy Light/Fire Bolt/etc.).

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Re: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2579.msg21007#msg21007
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 07:55:38 pm »
Yes, shields effect weapons too. It just needs a bit of a word change.
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Re: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2579.msg21015#msg21015
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 08:14:45 pm »
Well, I know Bone Wall stops weapons, but that says "damage from a single source".  Similarly, Dissipation Shield says "physical damage sources" and Dimensional Shield says "physical attacks".  A lot of shields just say "reduce damage by X", which would include a weapon.  The Gravity and Fire Shields don't affect weapons because they don't make sense in that context.

If the Dusk Mantle can make a weapon miss, why doesn't Procrastination put a weapon in a time bubble?  The logic is inconsistent.

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Re: Dusk Mantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2579.msg21019#msg21019
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 08:27:28 pm »
Weapons aren't creatures and thus can't be affected by creature status inflictions. Ice Shield reduces the damage of weapons by 1, but can't freeze them.

Dusk Mantle should say something like "All physical attacks..." rather than "All attacking creatures..." and that's all there's to it. Same thing for Fog Shield.

 

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