Flooding not killing creatures against AI

[blueberrymania]

I played against both an AI lvl 1, and an AI lvl3, and flooding doesn't kill ANY creatures.

[Tirear]

I played against both an AI lvl 1, and an AI lvl3, and flooding doesn't kill ANY creatures.

Flooding has the following restrictions:
1. The creatures must be in a flooded area (not the first 5 spaces)
2. The death happens when the creature attacks (or fails to attack). If flooding is destroyed before then (because you couldn't afford the quanta drain, or because the AI destroyed it), they won't die.
3. The creatures must not be water element.
4. The creature must have an element (meaning malignant cells and shard of focus and a few flown weapons are immune).
5. The creatures must be target-able (not burrowed or immortal).

Testing in the trainer, I was able to kill enemy creatures with flooding. Please check that all the above conditions apply, and then post a screenshot of the creatures surviving when they should be dead (if applicable).

[blueberrymania]

It was the first reason. But in that case, how come when someone else flooded ME, all my creatures were killed, including the first five?

[willng3]

There are several different reasons why this might happen.  However, there's a severe lack of information as to what else was going on in the game at the time that this happened.  Next time that it happens, take a screenshot and upload it here.  It will be much easier to reach a conclusion if you do.

[rickerd]

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

[furballdn]

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

I don't understand, but I'm assuming you mean by newly played creatures? Flooding only kills the creature if it is not water or other AFTER the creature attacks.

[rickerd]

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

I don't understand, but I'm assuming you mean by newly played creatures? Flooding only kills the creature if it is not water or other AFTER the creature attacks.

No, I played against Ai 4, I had flooding (+ enchant artifact on it), the Ai played a phase dragon and just attacked with it each turn, it was his sixth creature and only the first five are protected against flooding.

So... It shouldn't resist it, and if people say it's immortal how can it get killed by fireshield or spine carapace?

[n00b]

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

I don't understand, but I'm assuming you mean by newly played creatures? Flooding only kills the creature if it is not water or other AFTER the creature attacks.

No, I played against Ai 4, I had flooding (+ enchant artifact on it), the Ai played a phase dragon and just attacked with it each turn, it was his sixth creature and only the first five are protected against flooding.

So... It shouldn't resist it, and if people say it's immortal how can it get killed by fireshield or spine carapace?

Because it doesn't have Momentum, which lets the target creature bypass shields. You could almost consider the card Flooding to be a permanent that every turn, for one water quanta, plays a spell that kills all non-Water/Neutral creatures not in the first five spaces. In that case, immaterial creatures would be exempt as they cannot be targeted.

[rickerd]

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

I don't understand, but I'm assuming you mean by newly played creatures? Flooding only kills the creature if it is not water or other AFTER the creature attacks.

No, I played against Ai 4, I had flooding (+ enchant artifact on it), the Ai played a phase dragon and just attacked with it each turn, it was his sixth creature and only the first five are protected against flooding.

So... It shouldn't resist it, and if people say it's immortal how can it get killed by fireshield or spine carapace?

Because it doesn't have Momentum, which lets the target creature bypass shields. You could almost consider the card Flooding to be a permanent that every turn, for one water quanta, plays a spell that kills all non-Water/Neutral creatures not in the first five spaces. In that case, immaterial creatures would be exempt as they cannot be targeted.

Sorry, but then you can say the same about fire shield, it casts a spell that deals one dammage to all creatures who doesn't deal spell dammage or have momentum, or which doesn't attack. But if you consider it this way, can Shard of Freedom prevent  creatures from being killed? (at least sometimes)

[Naesala]

Spoiler for Hidden:

But why doesn't immo creatures die by flooding

I don't understand, but I'm assuming you mean by newly played creatures? Flooding only kills the creature if it is not water or other AFTER the creature attacks.

No, I played against Ai 4, I had flooding (+ enchant artifact on it), the Ai played a phase dragon and just attacked with it each turn, it was his sixth creature and only the first five are protected against flooding.

So... It shouldn't resist it, and if people say it's immortal how can it get killed by fireshield or spine carapace?

Because it doesn't have Momentum, which lets the target creature bypass shields. You could almost consider the card Flooding to be a permanent that every turn, for one water quanta, plays a spell that kills all non-Water/Neutral creatures not in the first five spaces. In that case, immaterial creatures would be exempt as they cannot be targeted.

Sorry, but then you can say the same about fire shield, it casts a spell that deals one dammage to all creatures who doesn't deal spell dammage or have momentum, or which doesn't attack. But if you consider it this way, can Shard of Freedom prevent  creatures from being killed? (at least sometimes)

Flooding is active, shields are reactive. The general consensus is that a Immaterial creature is momentarily physical to hit an opponent thus their shield protects them.

[teffy]

The "shield can harm and even kill immortals thing" was imo a balancing decision and  was changed in a patch (can´t find the Patch Notes, but zanz sometimes forgets to note some things). The change was made, when Quintessence was intoduced and immortality became a more common effect - if I remember correctly.