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Angelic_Dawn

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Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401128#msg401128
« on: September 29, 2011, 02:39:04 pm »


I'd say the Title+Picture says it all,   The Game Gave me a Air nymph, now thats all cute and such, but i dont even own any air nymphs  :))   (let alone have any in my deck)
It Didnt matter but still...


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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401131#msg401131
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 02:42:47 pm »
wha... I don't think I've ever won with the unupped hecate counter. ;-;

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401149#msg401149
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 03:16:20 pm »
Hmm. I assume you're using the unupped Hecate counter, so cards that draw more cards from your deck is out of the question.
What did you do the turn before you drew an Air Nymph?
If it is a bug, this sounds like a PU bug. (Just a guess)
Also, did you by chance get an Air Nymph from the Oracle when you logged on and just didn't notice?

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401167#msg401167
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 04:13:03 pm »
Yup,
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Dunno for sure, Pu'd a doll, and antimattered one of his i recall.

& Lastly
Looked again in my cards list (Just to make sure, tough its hard to miss getting a nymph  ;)),
Nope didnt get one.  (Awww  =p )

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401171#msg401171
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 04:22:00 pm »
This is weird.. Though I doubt this would be helpful, few more questions:
    What was your pet?[/li] What is your oracle card for today? (check Arena)[/li] Did you add anything else in your deck besides the obvious upgraded pends shown in the screenshot?[/li]

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401244#msg401244
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 06:45:26 pm »
This is weird.. Though I doubt this would be helpful, few more questions:
    What was your pet?

    I dont really know lol, it was ??.? on the oracle,
    i only played this one match this morning, to make use of the oracle, Grabbed the Un-upped Hecate Killer, threw in the ups i had for it,  Started the Game up, got some food,Didnt pay much attention,
    Played land, Space, *Munches food*, And he rage potion blew it up the first opportunity it got. 


    Hm... might've been the air nymph, but then how did it end up in my deck ?!? :/  *Confused*

    [/li] What is your oracle card for today? (check Arena)
    (Cecks Arena) Ice Dragon

    [/li] Did you add anything else in your deck besides the obvious upgraded pends shown in the screenshot?
    Exactly The same deck as the anti-Hecate deck,   +Some upgraded ones of the cards in it i had lying around, (20-30% of the deck or so)

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401260#msg401260
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2011, 07:18:30 pm »
Hm... might've been the air nymph, but then how did it end up in my deck ?!? :/  *Confused*
Nightmare? But I'm not sure about that since if she did play nightmare on your Blue Nymph pet, you probably should have multiple copies of that - unless she played it when you have a full hand causing you to have only one copy? But, it seems that you remembered the pet died on the earlier turns, no?

Did you see you draw the Blue Nymph card or it was there earlier before you took the screenshot?

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401261#msg401261
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 07:26:16 pm »
I think i drew it from the deck, Because of it only beeing one copy, thats the strange part,  (And had recieved no other new card)
As i told was also doing other stuff while playing the match,  (Space, walk away, wander back later take my turn, space, walk away) Here's hoping it isnt a bug, but i just didnt pay enough attention.

Picture was taken right after return.
If it'd been a dozen of copies in my hand at return i'd say, yup, nightmare happend, So i was puzzled at how this came to be, (1 copy of a nymph in my hand), 
Hence i arived here at the bug fora, as maybe you lot got any suggestions.  :)


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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401262#msg401262
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 07:30:15 pm »
Nightmare on your nymph pet is the only 'normal' reason to this.
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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401268#msg401268
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 07:43:58 pm »
As I mentioned, you could have one copy if Hecate played nightmare while your hand has only one empty space (e.g. if you held your PU/TU long enough). I'm not sure if it's possible; but because nightmare will prevent a draw, probably someone can calculate if nightmare been played based on the card counts in the screenshot. I've tried, but can't seem to get the correct logic. >.<

Oh well, without any other details I just hope it's not a bug.

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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401270#msg401270
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 07:45:49 pm »
Lets see if i can Help, and count it out.
Assuming he had at no specific time 7 cards he refused to play,
Hecate should draw 2 cards a turn.

Hecate has 33 cards = 66

End 26.   = 40 Cards = 16½??* turns played  / 40 Cards Drawn  (Assuming no 7 cards he refused to play)   (* 16½*2=33+7 Starting hand)
My End 8. = (Anti Hecate Deck, has 30 cards) = 15 Turns played/ 22cards Drawn

Er hm..  ?? now im confusing myself,  How can i have two more turns played, o.O Nightmare should reduce it


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Hm.. Ok then at some point Hecate was bound to have had 7 Cards And only drawn 1.
Which screw up the entire counting thing. >.>

1:Conclusion: In order for nightmare to have been played once, he has had to have been stuck at 7 cards for more then 3 turns or so turns, for more copies even longer, (doesnt seem likely, but its possible)
2:Conclusion: Meh It isnt really countable >.>



Diclaimer: But My Math Might be completly off.  Not really my thing. just trying to help =)



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Re: Drawing Cards not in the deck. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31715.msg401306#msg401306
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2011, 09:22:09 pm »
Yeah, the calculation kinda sux because she will not always draw 2 cards; and from the screenshot, it looks like 3 turns drawing 1 card is not that difficult to believe (note that I didn't check your calculation).
Also, don't forget that who went first matters (that is if if you can remember it :P)

Not sure if this helps (and accurate), but I count a bunch of other things:
    Hecate played 31 cards. 31 + 26 (deck) + 7 (hands) = 64. 64 ≠ 66 and Nightmare can't be traced, so this number is pretty useless.[/li] You played 21 cards. 21 + 8 (deck) + 2 (hands) = 31. That blue nymph did not replace any cards from your deck.[/li] Hecate's fire quanta is 31. 31 + 18 (played 6 REs) - 4 (from stolen pends) = 45. This means Hecate just went through her 15th turn (45/3) when you took the screenshot.[/li]

 

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