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Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137675#msg137675
« on: August 13, 2010, 05:47:18 pm »
Hello,

In the same turn, I played a Chimera then Twin universe on it.

The Chimera got duplicated, but the original disappeared.

It it a bug or a feature ?  :-\



Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137678#msg137678
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 05:52:31 pm »
I think its a feature cause it hapened to me to.

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137684#msg137684
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 05:57:14 pm »
It´s a feature. Zanzarino said this in the chatrooms. Twin Universe and Fractal don´t work.
Otherwise, Chimera would be overpowered.
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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137695#msg137695
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 06:28:35 pm »
Would be nice if these hidden rules were actually printed on the cards so people don't waste their electrum.

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137741#msg137741
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 07:34:28 pm »
If you lobo a Chimera, I'm pretty sure you can TU it works like you TUed a regular creature.

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg137928#msg137928
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2010, 10:37:39 pm »
chimera is a passive skill. you cannot remove it with lobotomizer.

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg139059#msg139059
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 09:35:46 am »
Hello,

In the same turn, I played a Chimera then Twin universe on it.

The Chimera got duplicated, but the original disappeared.

It it a bug or a feature ?  :-\

I would say thisis most definitely a bug since the AI and opposing players can parallel/twin universe your chimera with all its effects and current power/hp

MingBaek

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg139060#msg139060
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 09:39:59 am »
It´s a feature. Zanzarino said this in the chatrooms. Twin Universe and Fractal don´t work.
Otherwise, Chimera would be overpowered.

If he said it is indeed intentional then chimera is way underpowered, what is the point of sacking all your creatures to one really large creature if you opponent can copy it, but you cannot?


Would be better if chimera could be copied then absorbed into it's clone

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg139085#msg139085
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2010, 10:43:15 am »
It´s a feature. Zanzarino said this in the chatrooms. Twin Universe and Fractal don´t work.
Otherwise, Chimera would be overpowered.

If he said it is indeed intentional then chimera is way underpowered, what is the point of sacking all your creatures to one really large creature if you opponent can copy it, but you cannot?


Would be better if chimera could be copied then absorbed into it's clone
Chimera has a passive skill called 'chimera'.  How it works is that whenever a Chimera is summoned to one side it adds up all the attack and HP of the creatures on that side, its stats become that total, and all creatures are removed.

When your opponent uses Twin Universe, it is exactly like they played Chimera from their hand and it adds up the creatures on their side of the board.
When you use Twin Universe, on your Chimera, it is exactly like you played Chimera from your hand and it adds up the other Chimera, plus any other creatures to make its stats.

Before I use TU on my Chimera its stats are 2|16.
(http://imageplay.net/)

I use TU and it adds the previous Chimera plus the Firemaster and now the new Chimera's stats are 2|22.
(http://imageplay.net/)

Before I use TU on my opponent's Chimera, his Chimera is 24|18 and the creature on my side of the board is 2|4.
(http://imageplay.net/)

I use TU on HIS Chimera and my new Chimera takes its stats from the creatures on MY side of the board.
(http://imageplay.net/)

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg140003#msg140003
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 06:43:44 pm »
Chimera has a passive skill called 'chimera'.  How it works is that whenever a Chimera is summoned to one side it adds up all the attack and HP of the creatures on that side, its stats become that total, and all creatures are removed.

When your opponent uses Twin Universe, it is exactly like they played Chimera from their hand and it adds up the creatures on their side of the board.
When you use Twin Universe, on your Chimera, it is exactly like you played Chimera from your hand and it adds up the other Chimera, plus any other creatures to make its stats.

I do not disagree with you on the stats, but if you tu a chimera with vampire, you still get chimera stats with the vampire ability, why should the enemy get a larger vampire than me for less cost?

I haven't had an opponent TU again yet so I cannot prove it with a screen shot, but please,LD a chimera and have your opponent tu your chimera and see what happens.

MingBaek

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg140018#msg140018
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 07:07:57 pm »
I Still say the chimera is underpowered sinceunless you can tu/Parallel it as there are so many single creature elimination methods....

reverse time, max demon, mutation, antimatter, freeze, basilsk blood, petrify, infection

add that to the gravity pull already on it, and what this card really does is allow your enemy to get rid of all of your creatures in maybe one to two rnds, at a cost of 8 quatum from you...

why would you play this card?

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Re: Chimera and Twin Universe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11215.msg140056#msg140056
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 08:31:28 pm »
I Still say the chimera is underpowered sinceunless you can tu/Parallel it as there are so many single creature elimination methods....

reverse time, max demon, mutation, antimatter, freeze, basilsk blood, petrify, infection

add that to the gravity pull already on it, and what this card really does is allow your enemy to get rid of all of your creatures in maybe one to two rnds, at a cost of 8 quatum from you...

why would you play this card?
It's good to finish off your opponent if he/she has a shield up and/or your creatures have some status effects on them. It can also be used defensively with Armagios, Colossal Dragons, or Flying Titans.

That said, I agree with you that this card is underpowered. This is a rather situational and lumping all creatures into one may actually be bad for you in some cases. In my opinion, this is the most disappointing card of this exciting update.

 

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