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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7080#msg7080
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

Same happens for all targeted creature abilities. Apparently intended, even though it's not exactly the most user friendly way to do things.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7081#msg7081
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

Exactly what it says on the tin.  Get an Otyugh out.  Activate its eat ability.  Cancel.  Try to recast it on the same turn.  You can't.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7252#msg7252
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:05 pm »

And we don't think it'll change anytime soon.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7253#msg7253
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:05 pm »

As I remember, zanzarino said this was a penalty for being stupid. Doesn't mean that I like it, just that he did say that.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7759#msg7759
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

I believe that ambivalence is the correct word. I thank him for giving us the game, but sometimes his thinking is just weird.
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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7760#msg7760
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

Zanzarino seems like a rather weird person to me.

First, he said that the reason why it's so hard to win any cards is to give "longevity" to the game. Seriously? That's just an euphemism for "grinding".

Then, he gives penalties for accidentally misclicking a creature's ability. Most people are not being stupid, it just happened accidentally, it's quantum uncertainty in the most fundamental levels of the universe, and we can't do a thing about it. Why the hell would you be punished for something like that?!

I most strongly and vehemently OPPOSE Zanz's decision on this. It seems to me that he is actually the stupid one, not us who are simply victims of the universe.

Zanz made a great game and we love him for that, but him being this weird just makes me hate him.
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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7761#msg7761
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

What Pilch said. Zan is not going to change it at all been discussed and barried. Be more carefull is all one can say.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7762#msg7762
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

Agreed. Let's make the game harder, but make it so farm decks can be added. Let's stack graveyard, EB, but not nightfall. Let's try getting rid of all the cheaters, and not adding to the game.... and so on.

P.S. Some of those are not the best examples ^^

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7763#msg7763
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

I believe you actually use to lose the spell, if you clicked cancel along the way, they fixed it. However fixing this might be harder to do seeing as how there'd have to be something else put in place for not useing an ability twice per turn, however, yeah, this really should be fixed.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7764#msg7764
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

you seem to have quiet a lot of ambivalence towards zanz...

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg7765#msg7765
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

I'd like to mention that this aspect of the game — not being able to use a creature's ability because of a mistake or mis-click — brought me to these forums.

I'll support the game designer's decisions to keep this aspect of the game, however as a new player, and probably for everyone who encounters this issue, it really does seem like a bug.  Please consider making a note of this within the game so people will understand that this was intentional.

On a related note, I'd like to highly encourage the designer/development team to consider allowing you to cancel mistaken clicks like these without a consequence.  If there must be a cost to this mistake, at the most just burn the mana cost, but not the ability cooldown (accidentally spending one turn worth of an ability can be HUGE during a match and it's rather harsh punishment for just clicking, in my opinion).

I realize the game must maintain a certain level of difficulty to remain challenging and interesting for the player, but the "creature ability mis-click" is simply frustrating, especially if it's an honest mistake (For instance, "Oops, I meant to click on my Otyugh not my Anubis right now.... crap I wanted to make creature X in my hand invincible this turn.")

Finally, this aspect seems rather contradictory to being able to cancel spells in mid-cast without a consequence, and yet creature abilities become the exception.  This also reinforces the player's notion that this is actually a bug.

I'm quite passionate about this suggestion because I believe changing this (or making note of it somewhere) would only improve the interactivity of the game.  I really enjoy this game, and I'm only trying to help polish it!  Thank you.

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Cancelling Otyugh ability still drains mana/Otyugh cant reuse ability. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=742.msg8048#msg8048
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

Zanzarino seems like a rather weird person to me.

First, he said that the reason why it's so hard to win any cards is to give "longevity" to the game. Seriously? That's just an euphemism for "grinding".

Then, he gives penalties for accidentally misclicking a creature's ability. Most people are not being stupid, it just happened accidentally, it's quantum uncertainty in the most fundamental levels of the universe, and we can't do a thing about it. Why the hell would you be punished for something like that?!

I most strongly and vehemently OPPOSE Zanz's decision on this. It seems to me that he is actually the stupid one, not us who are simply victims of the universe.

Zanz made a great game and we love him for that, but him being this weird just makes me hate him.

 

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