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Pegasus + PU = dive error [not a bug] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381428#msg381428
« on: August 17, 2011, 09:53:52 pm »
I found an odd occurrence concerning Parallel universe on a Pegasus (unupped) that already used dive. The new PU'd Pegasus is 6/2 with summoning sickness. When it uses dive the next turn, after the attack phase it goes back to a 3/2. Instead of SS I asked Masterfurry to test it and he made a video.

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Re: Pegasus + PU = dive error [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381430#msg381430
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 09:55:45 pm »
I made the video.

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Re: Pegasus + PU = dive error [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381431#msg381431
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 10:01:58 pm »
Intended.

Dive's mechanic works as follows:

1. Double creature's current attack.
2. After the attack, reset creature's attack to it's full value.

So, combined with PU:

3 ATK Pegasus.
Dive makes it 6 ATK current and 3 ATK full.
PU copies these stats but the new copy does not count as "Dived", and as such, it's stats don't reset at the end of the turn.
Next turn, you dive the PUed Pegasus, it doubles it's current attack again making it 12 ATK current 3 ATK full.
After the attack, resets to full ATK which is 3.

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Re: Pegasus + PU = dive error [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381433#msg381433
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 10:06:09 pm »
Hm. good point. the Full Attack thing really didn't make much sense to me until now.
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Re: Pegasus + PU = dive error [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381434#msg381434
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 10:07:15 pm »
Intended.

Dive's mechanic works as follows:

1. Double creature's current attack.
2. After the attack, reset creature's attack to it's full value.

So, combined with PU:

3 ATK Pegasus.
Dive makes it 6 ATK current and 3 ATK full.
PU copies these stats but the new copy does not count as "Dived", and as such, it's stats don't reset at the end of the turn.
Next turn, you dive the PUed Pegasus, it doubles it's current attack again making it 12 ATK current 3 ATK full.
After the attack, resets to full ATK which is 3.
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Re: Pegasus + PU = dive error [unconfirmed] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29985.msg381435#msg381435
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 10:10:17 pm »
I remember, that the Dive+ TU mechanic was changed , to the way it is now. Especially with the (former new) card Shard of Readiness, the combination was seen as too powerful, and I think, it was rebalanced then. So Dive + TU doesn´t do, what you expect - it doesn´t double the Atk per copy.
I´m almost sure, that there are posts about this here in the forum, but I can´t find them.
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