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Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127621#msg127621
« on: July 30, 2010, 01:56:47 am »
Winsg specifically says that you can only be HARMED by airborne creatures, so why can't you be HEALED by grounded ones?

I lost a pvp game because I assumed that the dragon, even webbed, would heal me though I had wings up after reading the card description.

I'm not sure if antimattered creatures hit through dimensional shield, either, but I'd assume not since it says reached instead of harmed...

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127634#msg127634
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 02:27:38 am »
Just confirmed in trainer.  Creatures with negative attack do not hit through Wings or Phase Shield.

EDIT: Or Gravity Shield.

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127671#msg127671
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 03:26:22 am »
that's sad :(

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127687#msg127687
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 03:47:03 am »
Creatures with Antimatter attack just the same as normal creatures do, so they should be affected by all shields, no matter what.

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127689#msg127689
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 03:49:34 am »
Creatures with Antimatter attack just the same as normal creatures do, so they should be affected by all shields, no matter what.
Are you saying that is how it is, or how it should be?

It should be consistent.

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127761#msg127761
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 06:38:51 am »
Shields Have special Rulings that circumvent Shield Text.

1. Shields Always prevent damage from Physical Sources Only unless Stated Otherwise and do so by reducing any positive Atk by the damage reduction to a minimum of 0. In the case of an Evasion shield, the value is simply set to 0 if the Trigger chance is rolled.
2. Creatures that have Atk less than or equal to the damage prevention value of a Shield do not trigger a Shield Response. This Includes 0 and negative attack creatures.
Wings and Phase Shield set the atk to 0.

It could also be reckoned that Zanz made a common sense descision and said not Flying then you can't even make contact.

Anyone tested Momentum with wings?

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127767#msg127767
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 06:48:52 am »
Wings and Phase Shield set the atk to 0.
Will that be added as the third rule?  :P
And where does Dissipation Shield fit in those rules (Negative attack creatures still hit you)

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Anyone tested Momentum with wings?
Momentum passes through Wings.
All these tested in the Trainer, of course.

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Re: Antimattered grounded creatures don't heal through Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10401.msg127772#msg127772
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 07:01:19 am »
Momentum does bypass Wings.

 

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