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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1136583#msg1136583
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2014, 01:16:10 am »
Death has poison, and aether has SoW/Psion.

I question how much the change will actually do, given how web is given to the two elements who honestly don't need it.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1151434#msg1151434
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2014, 05:11:56 pm »
Buffing a weak ability and nerfing an OP card sounds great! I like that idea, and I think 91.7 % for "Yes" is screaming very loudly.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1156701#msg1156701
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 05:46:05 pm »
Oh for the love of god please implement this. It's such a useless ability since it's so counter intuitive that the only targets for web have target protection. T-T
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1168346#msg1168346
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2014, 11:46:58 pm »
My first reaction was no.  Web was an ability added for free to creatures that were pretty balanced before having the web ability.  Why would you want to buff this ability?

Then I read the post and realized the proposed buff wouldn't really make web or the creatures that use it any more powerful then they are right now, rather what we have is creating counter play to a currently OP combo that needs counter play.  Therefore I agree, yes, do this buff please. 

SoFree will still be good against any deck that doesn't have spiders, and against decks that have spiders without  :air (such as mono-death rushes). 

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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1168393#msg1168393
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2014, 09:03:37 am »
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1175244#msg1175244
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2015, 01:50:38 pm »
I agree "Web" needs buffing, but giving 100% accuracy would just make Wings too powerful. People can play 6 SoFrees (Which is 150%), if "Web" had -75% for the effect of SoFree, having 6 would mean 25% chance to hit  :air creatures. There is  100% chance hit on 1-3 SoFrees though. With this it means you get what you wan't but you can't abuse it.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1175792#msg1175792
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2015, 08:19:20 am »
I agree "Web" needs buffing, but giving 100% accuracy would just make Wings too powerful. People can play 6 SoFrees (Which is 150%), if "Web" had -75% for the effect of SoFree, having 6 would mean 25% chance to hit  :air creatures. There is  100% chance hit on 1-3 SoFrees though. With this it means you get what you wan't but you can't abuse it.

Wings + spider isn't a commonly used deck, regardless of whether SouFflé is in its meta, or not.

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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1175814#msg1175814
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2015, 05:53:01 pm »
I agree "Web" needs buffing, but giving 100% accuracy would just make Wings too powerful. People can play 6 SoFrees (Which is 150%), if "Web" had -75% for the effect of SoFree, having 6 would mean 25% chance to hit  :air creatures. There is  100% chance hit on 1-3 SoFrees though. With this it means you get what you wan't but you can't abuse it.

It would be OP in pvp1 sure, where the players dont know how to vs Wings.
Spoiler for How to play around wings, click if you need to know.:
Just amass quanta and airbourne creatures. Because we're talking about web, we'll assume you have airbourne creatures. Therfore the web ability wouldnt be OP with 100% accuracy on airborne creatures because its easy to play around wings. However it is very very frustrating as the wings player when you go to web an opponent who laid down a bunch of creatures then half your webs miss, only blocking ~1/4 of their creatures and you get bursted down.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1175881#msg1175881
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2015, 03:57:31 pm »
I agree "Web" needs buffing, but giving 100% accuracy would just make Wings too powerful. People can play 6 SoFrees (Which is 150%), if "Web" had -75% for the effect of SoFree, having 6 would mean 25% chance to hit  :air creatures. There is  100% chance hit on 1-3 SoFrees though. With this it means you get what you wan't but you can't abuse it.

It would be OP in pvp1 sure, where the players dont know how to vs Wings.
Spoiler for How to play around wings, click if you need to know.:
Just amass quanta and airbourne creatures. Because we're talking about web, we'll assume you have airbourne creatures. Therfore the web ability wouldnt be OP with 100% accuracy on airborne creatures because its easy to play around wings. However it is very very frustrating as the wings player when you go to web an opponent who laid down a bunch of creatures then half your webs miss, only blocking ~1/4 of their creatures and you get bursted down.
It would be annoying, sure. But note that SoFree isn't used too often. Chances are, you can still end up with a good winning streak in PvP. The Arena, however is a different story.
My idea now is for when 6 SoFrees are played, the % increase stops so it won't be really OP. This can open a potential for Fractal.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1176019#msg1176019
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2015, 01:10:05 pm »
Making it 100% doesn't make Wings too powerful. It only puts it back to the current meta in the shardless environment. Wings + web is rarely even used in competitive PVP. While on arena, a deck that doesn't have a way around a full block shield will suck anyway (Dim Shield says hello).

And of course, SoFr is in need of a nerf in its current state, and seeing that it's the only card affected by 100% web, I don't see how this is a bad idea.

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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1176025#msg1176025
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2015, 04:04:13 pm »
If "Web" does get buffed, it should also remove "Dive" since it makes sense. 100% accuracy sounds fair at this point since most SoFree decks are fast and often are just used to grind now.
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Re: 'Web' ability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27626.msg1176035#msg1176035
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2015, 06:34:12 pm »
Spiders/recluses spit webs out into the air. An air creature "dives" down, dodging the web. So web doesn't, and shouldn't, remove dive. 

also, web is for passives on target creature, not actives.
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