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Re: puffer fish (not toadfish) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg251926#msg251926
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2011, 04:05:07 pm »
in a reply to what has been said about balance, isn't the very purpose (and definition) of an upgrade to make the card better? most cards when upgraded lets say for example, precognition, becomes unbalanced. it is balanced when unupgraded, costing 2 quanta to see the opponents hand and draw, and the it draws you another card. but then you pay 1.5k and it suddenly halves it's cost and retains it's ability. upgrade is basically changing the balance scales and puffer fish certainly does not conform to that. it stays balanced like a normal card.

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Re: puffer fish (not toadfish) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg252104#msg252104
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2011, 09:35:06 pm »
Most upgraded cards lower their cost by 1-2 quanta if they're almost identical to the original. :P Also, if you wanted all upgraded cards to be "balanced" in accordance to the unupped, then cards like minor phoenix would have  to cost 4  :fire and a lot of card changing would have to take place.  Not only are the current upped versions meant to reward players who have been playing for a while, they also are still balanced and at the same time playable and at least somewhat unique. Puffer Fish simply turns the card into something different, and then applies the "upgraded" bonus (IMO it's the most original upgrade to any card in elements, have you seen any other card become completley reworked upon upgrading?).

You haven't stated this either: Have you played both with and against the card?  You might not find it so imbalanced then.

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Re: puffer fish (not toadfish) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg252122#msg252122
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2011, 09:54:35 pm »
putting it like that then yes i suppose there is a point to it. i do like the idea of uniqueness and come to think of it i have played against them (though the tactic did not revolve around them like mine).

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Re: puffer fish (not toadfish) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg252440#msg252440
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2011, 09:18:55 am »
putting it like that then yes i suppose there is a point to it. i do like the idea of uniqueness and come to think of it i have played against them (though the tactic did not revolve around them like mine).
So, considering they're so UP... you were happy to see them, I assume?
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Re: Puffer Fish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg404970#msg404970
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2011, 11:23:31 pm »
i just went to see the last posted topic.  but yes, scorpions are better.

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Re: Puffer Fish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10227.msg405120#msg405120
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2011, 02:45:37 am »
Puffer Fish works better with Adrenaline.
Adrenafish is 12 Damage and 2 Poison for 2 cards and 8 quanta. Adrenascorp is 8 Damage and 2 Poison for 2 cards and 6 quanta. And Toadfish has better HP. It's still useful.
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