[Official] Turquoise Nymph | Aether Nymph

[TheIdioticIdiot]

The usage statistics are skewed when comparing Anubis to the Turquoise Nymph because the nymph is a rare. I think the card is actually balanced; let me explain. If you play silence the same turn you play the aether nymph, the aether nymph can not be hit by spell CC. With the lobotomizer you remove skills that could harm it. Since 1.26, the Turquoise nymph has a much easier time immortalizing itself. However, just because it is balanced doesn't mean it needs a change. It's rather unfair that the Turquoise nymph is the only nymph whose skill is shared by another creature. Either Anubis or the nymph should get a new skill. I say the nymph because Anubis is more common and would affect more people.

so... your argument that the nymph is balanced is because it can immortalize itself safely?
um... that doesn't mean anything, even if it's immortalized, it's still the weakest nymph (maybe better than nymph queen)
I would take an anubis over the nymph anyday

[RootRanger]

I'm saying a lot of the poll is skewed because it was pre-silence.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I'm saying a lot of the poll is skewed because it was pre-silence.

perhaps, but does silence help nymph that much?
I say no... sure it allows it to immortalize itself, but again, even when immortal, this nymph is inferior to almost all other nymphs

[RootRanger]

No matter what is done, one nymph will always be the worst one. The point of buffs is so that worst card can still be usable in a non-counter deck.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

this nymph is still unusable with silences....

[willng3]

I'm saying a lot of the poll is skewed because it was pre-silence.

perhaps, but does silence help nymph that much?
I say no... sure it allows it to immortalize itself, but again, even when immortal, this nymph is inferior to almost all other nymphs

Silence helps remarkably well.  Unless your opponent has a card in play with an active ability that kills, you can Silence and then play the Nymph without worrying at all.  I ran a deck with 3 Nymphs, 6 Silence, and 6 Phase Shields, plus a few TUs and was able to successfully grind T50 (not the farms, actual decks), granted it was slow.  I honestly didn't realize the buff Silence gave to Turquoise Nymph at the time of its release.  However, in many cases this would amount to the same as holding a Quintessence in your hand and using it on the Nymph after playing it.  Still think it needs a buff, however, if only slightly.

[zse]

What is all this nonsense about changing perfectly good ability? Nerf This Card! topics are in that-> way.

Don't you guys see how making Nymph have Parallel Universe ability would become as much overshadowed by Mitosis as the Quint-ability is now overshadowed by Anubis?

Only difference from change 'Nymph Quint -> PU' would be making Nymph's Tears decks much worse. Do we really need to kill that deck-type just to make this card different from what it is now?

[johannhowitzer]

Mitosis does not copy buffs and status effects, zse.  It creates a copy of the creature as if you'd played the creature raw out of your hand.  PU can copy things like increase to stats, adrenaline, momentum, and also works on flying weapons.

I think PU-Nymph would be abuse-able.  Try a or combo with 22 copies of Fahrenheit/Adrena-Staff and see what happens... the former is 22 damage every 5 fire quanta, while the latter is 440 healing per turn.  I believe PU isn't on a stick for a reason.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

anubis is the problem, not the nymph

[10 men]

Don't you guys see how making Nymph have Parallel Universe ability would become as much overshadowed by Mitosis as the Quint-ability is now overshadowed by Anubis?

Not to those who like exponential sequences...

I think PU-Nymph would be abuse-able.  Try a or combo with 22 copies of Fahrenheit/Adrena-Staff and see what happens... the former is 22 damage every 5 fire quanta, while the latter is 440 healing per turn.  I believe PU isn't on a stick for a reason.

Sure it's abusable, if the opponent doesn't like control cards and you're good at pulling 4-card combos...

[Kaos.]

Voted "come into play immortal", but I'd also decrease atk by 4.^^

[Higurashi]

So what does Anubis have that Nymph doesn't? High HP.

Not the primary reason people use it over Nymph. The primary reason is this: it costs to summon and to use, therefore reducing the load on for cards like Fractal or TU for Flying Eternities or what have you.
The secondary reason is this: Anubis' ability costs 2 when unupped, 1 when upped. Nymph's costs 3 both upped and unupped. There's no reason to spend that much when you can even out the quanta distribution.

Anubis is the only creature that's doing a Nymph's job and doing it better. It is, indeed, the real problem. Not the Nymph. That said, Quint overshadows both, but if you wanted continuous Quint, I think Nymph is the only creature that should rationally be capable of that. Regardless of whether Anubis changed or not, it still needs an ability cost reduction, however.

Napalm and I wanted to make Anubis a mid-range attacker for Time, but it's getting Ghost now. Sure, it's expensive, but it's another attacker which is just what Time needed. So, when I'm thinking about this issue, I'm thinking about new abilities for Anubis. In fact, its current ability doesn't even make sense thematically. The death god Anubis was a god of mummification. He protected the dead and lead them to the afterlife. He did not prevent death or caused it by himself.