[Official] Trident | Poseidon

[Zergva]

I really love (and actually using daily) Poseidon in that form (yes, I'm using it's abilities too). Using it's ability 2x makes the opponent die of quanta starvation, how it's can be UP? And the change will kill the thematic of the card.

[Silux]

better used against cpu opponents, who use lots of pillars.
If you are really going to destroy all pillars i'd recommend running it with earthquakes, as the first pillars are the most productive, and it's hard to pull out trident's ability on first turn.

[Klipsf4g]

I really love (and actually using daily) Poseidon in that form (yes, I'm using it's abilities too). Using it's ability 2x makes the opponent die of quanta starvation, how it's can be UP? And the change will kill the thematic of the card.

As a deck it's not as strong as other decks, and as specifically quanta-denial it's not as strong (or as quick) as other forms of quanta denial. That's why I think it's so UP; the only time I think it would be both fast enough as well as other forms of quanta-denial not being as effective/repetitive is in a rainbow deck, but in a rainbow deck your Earth quanta are better spent on Graboids and Lava Golem growths, or a Pulverizer or Eagle's Eye which will very likely grant you more control.

As for the thematic, you make a good point. How would you feel about angry-poseidon: 
: Drown (kill) target creature along the edge of the field.
Or benign poseidon:
  Target creature gets +0/+2
or
  Target creature receives a bubble protecting it from the next spell/ability that would affect it.
or even
  Target creature is Immortal (can't be targeted) for 1 turn.

I'll toss it all in a poll.

[Dm]

You forgot "Fine as is" option. (Or "No change needed", or... yeah.)

Target creature gains +0/+2 is just a weak version of SoP.

[andretimpa]

a dual earth/water deck is simply never going to happen

SoP + wardens and squids can be pretty anoying.

[sathur]

I don't really care what the buff is, but i think that all weapons should be able to be used in a mono deck. The trident/poseidon can't and therefore makes this weapon kind of a pain to use. The cost of the ability should be water plain and simple .  Thank you.

[omegareaper7]

I don't really care what the buff is, but i think that all weapons should be able to be used in a mono deck. The trident/poseidon can't and therefore makes this weapon kind of a pain to use. The cost of the ability should be water plain and simple .  Thank you.

It can be used though, just not well. earth mark with water pendulums is still a mono.

[Gandora]

a dual earth/water deck is simply never going to happen

SoP + wardens and squids can be pretty anoying.

Agreed.

[Zergva]

We'll still waiting for a "No changes needed" option in the pool, because it's a sort of deceiving.

[serprex]

I don't really care what the buff is, but i think that all weapons should be able to be used in a mono deck. The trident/poseidon can't and therefore makes this weapon kind of a pain to use. The cost of the ability should be water plain and simple .  Thank you.

Pulverizer. I personally like weapons being non mono, but that's because I lean away from helping monos since their consistency is already strong

[Klipsf4g]

You forgot "Fine as is" option. (Or "No change needed", or... yeah.)

Target creature gains +0/+2 is just a weak version of SoP.

Added it to the poll, although considering how little it's used by players I don't think it can be argued that it doesn't need a change. I have seen it a few times in rainbow arena decks where they have the quanta cost quickly enough to supply it. (It didn't have much effect then to me; a Pulverizer or an Eagle's Eye would have done more work against my deck.)

It's not my personal favourite either, but it's an option and I figured I'd give people all the options. Having something then removed because it's not great or outright bad or boring is what I'd rather do over not adding it in the first place.

a dual earth/water deck is simply never going to happen

SoP + wardens and squids can be pretty anoying.

Haha, I hear that. Alright, I'll amend it. =)

I don't really care what the buff is, but i think that all weapons should be able to be used in a mono deck. The trident/poseidon can't and therefore makes this weapon kind of a pain to use. The cost of the ability should be water plain and simple .  Thank you.

Pulverizer can't be used in a mono-deck either, for balancing reasons - it would be crazy op. However, it's still very strong throughout the entire game in rainbow decks, since there are simply a lot of powerful permanents. Having Poseidon's EQ cost water quanta would be way too strong - water already has a lot of strong stall; with the growth from SoP, you could roll over someone before they could react. However, with the cost in Earth, it becomes impossible to use in the vast majority of water decks and I have so far only heard of one strong earth/water deck; in Rainbows, it gets outclassed by Pulverizer and Eagle's Eye.

It would fit the theme, I admit: Rather than an earthquake, it'd be a tsunami.

I don't really care what the buff is, but i think that all weapons should be able to be used in a mono deck. The trident/poseidon can't and therefore makes this weapon kind of a pain to use. The cost of the ability should be water plain and simple .  Thank you.

It can be used though, just not well. earth mark with water pendulums is still a mono.

Exactly: It can't be used well. A rare weapon, a possible final quest reward... it should be strong in some form, and Poseidon... isn't.

I personally like weapons being non mono, but that's because I lean away from helping monos since their consistency is already strong

Having no cool weapons in a mono deck makes them bland very quickly. Even though I'm a big fan of rainbows for the versatility and playstyle, I do think monos should be playable and fun.

A final note on Pulverize being dual: Gavel deals 7 dmg per turn for Earth decks and is an okay replacement. Longsword, even though it deals a steady 6 dmg per turn, doesn't fit well into water decks due to their stall quality, and their damage often being in the form of poison or SoP stacks.

[dawn to dusk]

The mighty Posiden does not carry a puny weapon that kills someone after 25 hits, he carries one that kills a person in 1.
Now a weapon capable of dealing 100 damage is OP so maybe increase to 7 would be good. With a cost increase as well...

a dual earth/water deck is simply never going to happen

SoP + wardens and squids can be pretty anoying.

Another deck that's a pain is SoP + antlions. They essentially gain +4/+2 each turn. Bringing back the antlions never felt so sweet...