[Official] Toadfish | Puffer Fish

[kobisjeruk]

i'd rather Pupperfish has a buff similar to Micro Abomination / Minor Phoenix - reduced cost for a smaller body
instead of what zanz is planning right now
poeple will still wont be playing with pufferfish in PvP (who wants to play 5 for a 3|4 with venom? even moreso when scorpions come out with lower cost and better poison ability?) but it makes it a whole lot harder vs FGs with the fish

[jmdt]

i'd rather Pupperfish has a buff similar to Micro Abomination / Minor Phoenix - reduced cost for a smaller body
instead of what zanz is planning right now
poeple will still wont be playing with pufferfish in PvP (who wants to play 5 for a 3|4 with venom? even moreso when scorpions come out with lower cost and better poison ability?) but it makes it a whole lot harder vs FGs with the fish

1st.)  Its 3/5 not 3/4.  That 1 hp is a big difference as only a thunderbolt will oneshot these guys.  When I used these in the triner I noticed the were tough to kill.  Much tougher than the scorpions,

2nd.)  They may be more popular than you think.  2->3 attack is a HUGE deal on the multiplayer scene.  The reason these guys were never popular is that the most popular shield in the game, permafrost, complete negated this card completely.  Forest scorpion will still have this problem, however only hope and diamond shield can block pufferfish 2.0.

This card finally has some leg up to compete with physalia.  However, it almost feels like it could still use another small buff comparing to physalia.  Seeing how water has stalling this may be a bad idea though.

[Marvaddin]

i'd rather Pupperfish has a buff similar to Micro Abomination / Minor Phoenix - reduced cost for a smaller body
instead of what zanz is planning right now
poeple will still wont be playing with pufferfish in PvP (who wants to play 5 for a 3|4 with venom? even moreso when scorpions come out with lower cost and better poison ability?) but it makes it a whole lot harder vs FGs with the fish

I agree. The card still wont be used for players. This will just make Elidnis and Scorpio harder and frustrate people. Leave it as 2/4, or do it a 2/5, or reduce the cost, but dont increase the attack.

[jmizzle7]

Just in case people had forgotten this little tidbit: Pufferfish still has the 'poisonous' passive skill, folks! So a 3|5 creature (unbelievable stats for reasons mentioned previously) that not only poisons your opponent, but infects Otyugh? Seriously, seriously powerful.

[MrBlonde]

Yeah pretty much the only counter for the puffer now are lobotomize, diamond shield, and lightning. 

[Malduk]

Just in case people had forgotten this little tidbit: Pufferfish still has the 'poisonous' passive skill, folks! So a 3|5 creature (unbelievable stats for reasons mentioned previously) that not only poisons your opponent, but infects Otyugh? Seriously, seriously powerful.

Oty has troubles eating them in the first place. CCing Puffies will be really hard, but due to them being slow in building up damage, you're better off with outrushing strat than trying to get control of the board anyway.

But you forgot the most important thing: they are cute as hell!

Yeah pretty much the only counter for the puffer now are lobotomize, diamond shield, and lightning. 

Diamond shield is really a decent card, especially in combination with omni present SoGs. Maybe we'll see more of those if Puffer decks become popular.
Scarabs are slow and not widely used, but they are the best way to get rid of poisonous creatures.
Eternity and denial decks could hurt Puffer decks a lot too. Not a hard counter, but slowing down something that is already really slow is good enough.
And who knows, maybe we'll see more Purifies

[Skyfox]

Hmmm, the rise of poison decks, and perhaps decks will start using purify (good point, Malduk).

I guess we're still seeing efforts to sidestep the "quinted Otygh" simple CC (as Jmizzle pointed out).  In the vein of counters to the classic rainbow, I would like to see more options to protect permanents, rather than simply the Earth PA (more ways to attack permanents is great, yes, Butterfly Effect, but similar deal with the still very popular Pulvy) but not to get off topic.

When the scorpions are unleashed and the the Puffer buff, poison will be the next big thing. 

Kind of a shame, really, because I do like my EM.     

It'll keep the decks evolving.  And hey, I already have 6 Pufferfish  8)

[killsdazombies]

i think puffer fish should actually be NERFED. most sheilds dont stop him now that he has 3 attack, and he adds poison, it just seems OP that he should get past most sheilds, poison, and have a high hp and cause poisoning for only 5 water quanta, it needs to have a cost increase.

[Bender74d]

Yeah pretty much the only counter for the puffer now are lobotomize, diamond shield, and lightning.

wont mutate also allow you to oty eat them

[smuglapse]

wont mutate also allow you to oty eat them

Passives depend on the portrait.  So as long as it does not mutate into another poisonous creature, it will be safe for the Oty to eat.

[sSethia]

A water stall with Pufferfish, Physalia, Permafrost, SoG, and Congeal/Arctic Squid might appear after this buff. I certainly think that it'd do good; not as a speed poison but as a stall.

[killybob]

now i'm very happy with what the puffer fish does, i just don't like the way that, despite the title "upgrade" it doesn't really fit the bill. all you do when you pay 1.5k is turn it into a different card entirely. i would be most grateful if it were to have it's cost to play lowered.