[Official] Dagger | Dirk

[Camoninja]

The whole point of buffing the card is to have a reason to upgrade it. You're right it shouldn't be buffed too much but the dirk does need some help so people might actually use it.

[zse]

I still hate the idea that Dirk, an other and therefore theoretically weak weapon, would ever be better or more useable than the rare weapon of that element. If a mono gravity would rather use a Dirk rather than a Titan, even in little situations, then I very much dislike the idea.
Other cards should always be weaker than a card made for the element.
Non rare cards should be slightly weaker than rares.

Unless the new version of dirk is not in competitive distance from the upgraded rare weapons, I am against it.

My goal is not to get Dirk changed from totally useless piece of item into greatest weapon ever made. Just getting enough buff that it would be a borderline decent card that can be used in some specific decks with mediocre results - like Long Sword in Mono Rush or Gavel in Cremation-Golem.

[killybob]

i think it's worth buffing it. the dirk may be a good noob deck filler but really it may as well not exist at all since everyone sells it almost immediately to get a bit of cash. it definitely needs a bit of healthy buffing .

[zse]

i think it's worth buffing it. the dirk may be a good noob deck filler but really it may as well not exist at all since everyone sells it almost immediately to get a bit of cash. it definitely needs a bit of healthy buffing .

Now you're talking about Dagger, that is the un-upped version. This topic is not about that card. *points to subject*

Dirk is the upped version that costs 1524 . If you have that card, there's a really slim change that you're noob.

[killybob]

i think it's worth buffing it. the dirk may be a good noob deck filler but really it may as well not exist at all since everyone sells it almost immediately to get a bit of cash. it definitely needs a bit of healthy buffing .

Now you're talking about Dagger, that is the un-upped version. This topic is not about that card. *points to subject*

Dirk is the upped version that costs 1524 . If you have that card, there's a really slim change that you're noob.

whoops my mistake
i meant to add that i think it has no point to it's being upgraded

[Kael Hate]

Make it a weapon that sits in the Shield slot if you already have a weapon.
It still does its 4 damage while there.

[killybob]

now there's a good idea. that would work in a rush with weapons like Titan and Fahrenheit. it would also add a little more diversity into the game.

[zse]

Make it a weapon that sits in the Shield slot if you already have a weapon.
It still does its 4 damage while there.

So basically you've little bit tweaked the idea Twinbuster originally made:
5) Dual Wield: You could have 2x of this weapon simultaneously, stacked or placed to empty shield slot.

I don't like to add another alternative to the poll when it's so similar with already existing one, but I'll change that Dual Wield option so it also includes your version:

5) Dual Wield: You could have this weapon simultaneously with another: 2x stacked on weapon slot, or second placed to shield slot, or this weapon would go into empty shield slot if weapon slot was already taken with any weapon.
Is that written the way you meant it, or do you want me to change it?

[zse]

1) Shadow Dagger: Deal 1 (or 2) more damage if you have or mark.


Maybe that wasn't the most original idea, nor was it the most popular on the polls, but it apparently gave zanz one of those "Why Bother poll results?" moment, and he picked that idea.

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