[Official] Thorn Carapace | Spine Carapace

[willng3]

I don't see why this needs a buff. It's pretty much regarded as the second best stalling shield in the game (after permafrost), and it is in the element that is known for rushing, to boot. Ironically, unlike Spine Carapace, Jade Shield could probably use a buff in a form of cost reduction.

Especially compared to mirror shield...

I understand that you may have misunderstood the subject due to the wrong image...but this is about Thorn / Spine Carapace, not Emerald / Jade Shield.

I honestly think the cost is a bit high for Spine Carapace, especially considering it doesn't affect anything with <1 attack.

EDIT:  Never mind about the shield mix up, my fail.

[EvaRia]

No, I knew it was about Thorn Carapace.
I was just responding to the post above me.
OT: I don't really think it needs a buff. It's a really powerful shield, and there's no way to deal with it until we get a card that can get rid of infection.

[BC]

I don't see why this needs a buff. It's pretty much regarded as the second best stalling shield in the game (after permafrost), and it is in the element that is known for rushing, to boot. Ironically, unlike Spine Carapace, Jade Shield could probably use a buff in a form of cost reduction.

I understand that you may have misunderstood the subject due to the wrong image...but this is about Thorn / Spine Carapace, not Emerald / Jade Shield.

I honestly think the cost is a bit high for Spine Carapace, especially considering it doesn't affect anything with <1 attack.

My post is indeed about spine carapace. I am simply pointing out that although I do not think thorn/spine carapace needs a buff, emerald/jade shield is definitly in need of a buff since it is so underused. Besides, why would anyone refer to emerald/jade shield as the second best stalling shield in the game? If you want reflective, theres mirror shield, at nearly 1/4 the cost.

[willng3]

To be honest, I wondered the exact same about Spine Carapace.  I would take Diamond or Jade over it as a stall tactic.  But yes, as I already said, my fail.

[BC]

Yep, saw that one. It's all good.
About the stall thing, what I do when I start building a stall deck is start with 2-3 permafrost and 1 mirror shield. Then, if it turns out I need water for something else, I switch to spine capace. If I really, really need that light quanta for some reason, I would take emerald over jade, because extra 1 damage blocked is not worth the 2 more , since emerald already blocks 1, locking out malignant cells.

[theloconate]

It shouldn't be buffed. It needs to have the poison percent rate thingy down to 25-50% 

[guolin]

It shouldn't be buffed. It needs to have the poison percent rate thingy down to 25-50% 

NO, otherwise unupped version would be severely UP compared to Fire Buckler. It kills many creatures slower, and it's more expensive.

[TheOnlyNewb]

Either this needs a tiny bit lower success rate (65-70%) or it should only stack a limited number of times.Just throwing thoughts around..

[Demut]

Its a pain in the neck, but a soft pain in the neck. Its fine.

[Glitch]

Either this needs a tiny bit lower success rate (65-70%) or it should only stack a limited number of times.Just throwing thoughts around..

I actually agree here.  I would prefer a lower cost lower percentage version.

[TheOnlyNewb]

I know pretty much everyone disagrees, because of the fire buckler, which is a stupid story..... but i think the percentage seriously needs lowering, even by a little bit.
Just to clarify:People say a nerf on this means a nerf on fire buckler. No it does not. This can kill a golden dragon potentially in about 5-6 turns. Fire buckler takes a whole 10. Pwnd 

[RootRanger]

Pwned? Not even close. Golden dragon has one of the highest HPs in the game. Let's take an average creature, say 4-6 health. The carapcae and buckler are about equal.