[Official] Stone Dragon | Basalt Dragon

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Noting that Golden Dragon is 10|10 for 12 .  If there every is a need for this kind of a buff then the quanta cost would need to be changed greatly.

congratz on the 1111th post will

but yes, this is overshadowed greatly by shrieker, and it's essentially just a more expensive shrieker, making it a useless card. So therefore we have to do SOMETHING with it

Or we can do something with shrieker, which is likely the bigger problem.

Seriously, all the earth cards are really, really great and honestly don't need a buff, it's just that they are all overshadowed by shrieker and graboid.

A nerf topic for grabby and shrieker will have more success with the plunge in ttw for shrieker rush. It's something to look into.....after the holidays

[GG]

Noting that Golden Dragon is 10|10 for 12 .  If there every is a need for this kind of a buff then the quanta cost would need to be changed greatly.

congratz on the 1111th post will

but yes, this is overshadowed greatly by shrieker, and it's essentially just a more expensive shrieker, making it a useless card. So therefore we have to do SOMETHING with it

Which do you think needs more serious buff, my dragon or yours?

and stop copying my profile pic.

[Ekki]

Which do you think needs more serious buff, my dragon or yours?

and stop copying my profile pic.

Definetly. Gravity/Massive Dragon is by far more UP than your smoothly UP dragon, so shh and let 1.27 buff Grav Dragon again. Then in 1.28 you may have your own buff

[Daytripper]

In all honesty, it isn't bad. You simply forward the extra 4  for 8! defence. It's just like a shrieker but it almost never dies. You forget the shrieker and the midrange attackers are actually quite good in cost/attack ratio. You should not compare shrieker and dragon.

This is the actual calculation:

10 attack equals 10 
There is 12 defence for 2 
Earth gets free defence bonus.
Therefore you get 5,5 HP per 1 
-> 5,5 x 2 = 11 + 1 = 12

After a while defence doesn't matter, I will grant you that. But this HP tank... Is near immune to oty and maxwell's demon. Just fight Obliterator a few times and show me how many dragons you killed.

The MASSIVE dragon gets 30 HP for 3  , so you should stop complaining already. It's meant as a HP tank, it has it's uses. You know how incredibly annoying it is to kill it? It takes about all the counters in my deck!

The light Dragon does not need a buff by the way. It has 12 attack!

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Stone Dragon got buffed ever since Wings came out, since Stone Dragon is the only creature from Earth that can hit through Wings. This makes it unique from other Earth creatures and gives you a reason to use it (if you expect Wings you can throw some Stone Dragons in a Shrieker rush (like I did)). Not to mention with such a high defense few would even dare considering to damage it.

[Ekki]

In all honesty, it isn't bad. You simply forward the extra 4  for 8! defence. It's just like a shrieker but it almost never dies. You forget the shrieker and the midrange attackers are actually quite good in cost/attack ratio. You should not compare shrieker and dragon.

This is the actual calculation:

10 attack equals 10 
There is 12 defence for 2 
Earth gets free defence bonus.
Therefore you get 5,5 HP per 1 
-> 5,5 x 2 = 11 + 1 = 12

After a while defence doesn't matter, I will grant you that. But this HP tank... Is near immune to oty and maxwell's demon. Just fight Obliterator a few times and show me how many dragons you killed.

The MASSIVE dragon gets 30 HP for 3  , so you should stop complaining already. It's meant as a HP tank, it has it's uses. You know how incredibly annoying it is to kill it? It takes about all the counters in my deck!

The light Dragon does not need a buff by the way. It has 12 attack!

Dude, 30 hp is unuseful since Armagio came out... Why would you use this instead of Armagio? If you want attack power, with 11 quantums you can summon 5 frogs (as an example). Attack and Hp need to be focused IN ITS OWN to be effective in a deck.
Try to make a competitive (saying good sounds dull) deck using Massive Dragon, or Basalt Dragon... You'll find that they are in the middle, and that the decks that succeed are the ones focused in one thing (only attack, only stall, only denial), and that Hybrids are both unpopular and unefective.

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In all honesty, it isn't bad. You simply forward the extra 4  for 8! defence. It's just like a shrieker but it almost never dies. You forget the shrieker and the midrange attackers are actually quite good in cost/attack ratio. You should not compare shrieker and dragon.

This is the actual calculation:

10 attack equals 10 
There is 12 defence for 2 
Earth gets free defence bonus.
Therefore you get 5,5 HP per 1 
-> 5,5 x 2 = 11 + 1 = 12

After a while defence doesn't matter, I will grant you that. But this HP tank... Is near immune to oty and maxwell's demon. Just fight Obliterator a few times and show me how many dragons you killed.

The MASSIVE dragon gets 30 HP for 3  , so you should stop complaining already. It's meant as a HP tank, it has it's uses. You know how incredibly annoying it is to kill it? It takes about all the counters in my deck!

The light Dragon does not need a buff by the way. It has 12 attack!

Dude, 30 hp is unuseful since Armagio came out... Why would you use this instead of Armagio? If you want attack power, with 11 quantums you can summon 5 frogs (as an example). Attack and Hp need to be focused IN ITS OWN to be effective in a deck.
Try to make a competitive (saying good sounds dull) deck using Massive Dragon, or Basalt Dragon... You'll find that they are in the middle, and that the decks that succeed are the ones focused in one thing (only attack, only stall, only denial), and that Hybrids are both unpopular and unefective.

This is why they need a buff.

[7wavemaster]

If you dont add nerf to poll il use avater with stone dragon on it with NERF MEH on it. ^^

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If you dont add nerf to poll il use avater with stone dragon on it with NERF MEH on it. ^^

you better not lol

[TheCrazyMango]

lol i would also use the nerf meh avatar. it should be a day long troll for everybody to either use basalt or massive dragon and nef meh. it would be so epic

[Daytripper]

It is very simple.

You play the dragon. Do damage. Build up your strategy. If the dragon isnt dead by then, catapult it into the enemy or use Chimera.

I don't see how armaggio can do any pre damage. I do not seriously believe anyone plays out only armaggio's to Chimera/catapult them. If they do, maybe you are right and gravity needs a nerf.

[Ekki]

It is very simple.

You play the dragon. Do damage. Build up your strategy. If the dragon isnt dead by then, catapult it into the enemy or use Chimera.

I don't see how armaggio can do any pre damage. I do not seriously believe anyone plays out only armaggio's to Chimera/catapult them. If they do, maybe you are right and gravity needs a nerf.

Definetly you haven't ever tried to do that... Making a deck sometimes is harder than just picking a strategy and saying it's logical, because lots of other stuff can screw it.

I hope you're talking about basalt dragon, because you sounded pretty much as talking about the massive one... And massive dragon is more UP than basalt.

BTW, I still think that Basalt Dragon doesn't need a buff, maybe just a minor one.