[Official] Steal | Improved Steal

[TheAccuso]

I think it's fair enought that you can have many bones-shield as much you stoled instead of just 1 even if you use steal more than once.

[vivimancer]

if steal should be able to do this so should deflag and SoFo.  But then it would lose its uniqueness ...

[CuCN]

This only applies to steal, you aren't getting anything with deflag and sofo.

The bone you steal counts as a shield and overwrites anything in your shield slot, including another bone. It would make sense for stolen bones to stack, but this seems like it would rarely come up and wouldn't effect gameplay much.

[Chapuz]

Let bonewall have multi layers, imo even it should only steal 1 layet of dim shield and wings.

[furballdn]

The way steal works, it destroys your current shield and replaces it with the stolen shield. That means if you had a 299xbonewall shield and your opponent had a 7x bonewall, if you stole one bonewall they'd have 7x and you'd only have 1x instead of 300x.

I think that it should be 300x though.

[Poker Alho]

the real question is: why do you think it's fair?

Steal already seems a very solid card, with very important differences regarding other kinds of PC, by allowing you to get an opponents permanent instead of just destroying it, wich might enable you to completely ruin some strategies or even "steal" (no pun intended) the other's deck strategy

even if you only manage to steal one bone counter, and that's not a steal property, thats a BW property, it can pottentialy lead to you being able to build up one wall of your own after you take down your opponent's, although that's not a very common scenario.

  Overall, i think the way it is right now is just fine. besides, BW is supposed to be the "anti-PC" shield because of its numerous bone counters and ways to make it grow

[Absol]

I think he means that:
Make Stealing BW stackable. 2 Steal = 2 counter stolen.
Right now, Stealing opponent's BW only gives you one counter, regardless of the number of Steal used. Oddly enough, the counter stacks when you steal your own BW.

[Poker Alho]

I think he means that:
Make Stealing BW stackable. 2 Steal = 2 counter stolen.
Right now, Stealing opponent's BW only gives you one counter, regardless of the number of Steal used. Oddly enough, the counter stacks when you steal your own BW.

the problem is with the way steal works. it first destroys its target and then creates a copy of the target on your side, like previously said. Its indeed strange that it works like that when used against ourselves, but completely irrelevant as i dont see how could that be useful. If that's the buff he wanted, well it does make sense, but personally i dont find it too important...

[TheAccuso]

The way steal works, it destroys your current shield and replaces it with the stolen shield. That means if you had a 299xbonewall shield and your opponent had a 7x bonewall, if you stole one bonewall they'd have 7x and you'd only have 1x instead of 300x.

I think that it should be 300x though.

If it's true also that a shield is a permanent so: 1 deflag destorys 1 permanent, 2 destroys 2 permanents=Steal destroys 1 permanent and make it your, 2  destroys 2 permanents and make them yours.

[TheAccuso]

the problem is with the way steal works. it first destroys its target and then creates a copy of the target on your side, like previously said. Its indeed strange that it works like that when used against ourselves, but completely irrelevant as i dont see how could that be useful. If that's the buff he wanted, well it does make sense, but personally i dont find it too important...

I didn't find any thread saying "!!!VERY IMPORTANT!!!", i think i named it "MINI-BUFF"...

[Poker Alho]

the problem is with the way steal works. it first destroys its target and then creates a copy of the target on your side, like previously said. Its indeed strange that it works like that when used against ourselves, but completely irrelevant as i dont see how could that be useful. If that's the buff he wanted, well it does make sense, but personally i dont find it too important...

I didn't find any thread saying "!!!VERY IMPORTANT!!!", i think i named it "MINI-BUFF"...

even the smallest of buffs can become a game changer

[TheAccuso]

even the smallest of buffs can become a game changer

Prolly tomorrow we'll find hordes of malifignants people packing 6 steal and waiting behind the corner for some free bones!