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Re: Black Hole|Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23012.msg294454#msg294454
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2011, 02:57:34 am »
While I don't think it'll be OP, just because it drains an extra 3 :gravity doesn't mean it needs that extra 3 :gravity. Sure it would have the potential to heal 30 HP a turn, but 27 HP heal a turn isn't bad either.
you completely missed my point. I said that it costs 3 to use, and then it drains an additional 3. In essence, you drain 6 gravity each time you use it even though it only costs 3.

To use this card solely off of quantum pillars, you need 12 to have a nomalized 3 gravity a turn. Not many decks have that.

SoR-What nymph isnt OP with SoR? Hardly worth mentioning.

3 PA'ed pillars please! Being rainbow and all; though this all goes to death thanks to:
You mean 1 stack with 3 pillars in it? Which only requires 1 pa? Are people just turning their brain off when they read this thread? Btw, make an efficient rainbow deck that has 3 grav pillars and a PA.
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Re: Black Hole|Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23012.msg294487#msg294487
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2011, 05:02:57 am »
1) I said it wasn't OP.
2) 3 pillars minimum, never said optimal.

Re: Black Hole|Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23012.msg294503#msg294503
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2011, 05:31:16 am »
SoR-What nymph isnt OP with SoR? Hardly worth mentioning.
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Re: Black Hole|Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23012.msg294708#msg294708
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2011, 02:20:34 pm »
you all seem to be arguing about this change being used on every turn sometimes more than once.
1) you may not need healing EVERY turn
2) really the effect is meant as a last resort not regular every turn use. it's really not the sort of thing you'd create a whole deck around.

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Re: Black Hole|Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23012.msg295653#msg295653
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2011, 10:36:49 pm »
I don't think Black Hole should have a buff, but I do think the game would benefit if it was a bit less of a situational card.

The change I've proposed in the past (and still favor) is to make black hole drain 4 quanta per element, up to a maximum of 20 quanta.
This would make Black hole more effective against monos and duos, but less of an "auto-win" against rainbows and not quite as overpowered in combo with discord.

 

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