*Author

Offline unknown89089

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 116
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • unknown89089 is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Meh
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg484675#msg484675
« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2012, 04:56:07 am »
This card is still severely underpowered, Water has no good spammable creatures that get to the point where Flooding could be useful.

Offline eaglgenes101

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1964
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 29
  • eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • The rising all-'rounder of Elements
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg484682#msg484682
« Reply #73 on: April 21, 2012, 05:04:04 am »
This card is still severely underpowered, Water has no good spammable creatures that get to the point where Flooding could be useful.
That's not the point.
My 3 game-modification principles:
1. If it ain't broke, don't wreck it.
2. Simple fixes for simple problems.
3. Remember to fill in the holes.

Offline Selinea

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 115
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • Selinea is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Lost and Dazed
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg484701#msg484701
« Reply #74 on: April 21, 2012, 05:53:48 am »
It's not very useful for water, but burrow +3 rounds, and then unburrow = +6 attack. Several non-forest scorpions + SoP is probably better than hoping to draw momentum/blessings. I think there's a lot of ways to combo this card, but not enough ways for this card to be useful to water. Maybe +4/+4 for any water creature while flood is in play, not just in a flooded area? Then you wouldn't have to try to spam creatures...

Offline swishy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • swishy is a Spark waiting for a buff.
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg485350#msg485350
« Reply #75 on: April 22, 2012, 11:45:34 am »
Though this isn't the case, when I first saw this I thought that it gave +4|+4 to any creature in a flooded area, not just :water ones. I was quite sad when my submerged malignant cells didn't really do much. Changing is to be like this would massively help flooding and alfatoxin, which are both very underused and underpowered.

Offline Manatuner

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 30
  • Reputation Power: 1
  • Manatuner is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg488606#msg488606
« Reply #76 on: April 27, 2012, 10:45:49 pm »
Just saw some application of Shard of Patience in Arena, like buffing Elite Skeletons on a Death Poison Stall deck, it is quite scary to see the skeletons being buffed up gradually.  I think that the Shard is fine as it is now, as the benefit it gives to Water creature is immense.

Offline Picheleiro

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 150
  • Reputation Power: 3
  • Picheleiro is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Engrish scholar
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501283#msg501283
« Reply #77 on: May 20, 2012, 09:03:16 am »
Maybe it´s a silly idea, but, like SoF, why not give a water card when removed? Like Purify.

Or maybe do it depending of the turns since played SoP. More cards or a more powerful one every turn you wait to click and remove. Can be +1 Pillar/Turn waited, for example. It´s a bet, because PC exist. It would be a buff and I think It would be funny, too.

Thoughts?

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501336#msg501336
« Reply #78 on: May 20, 2012, 01:57:31 pm »
Maybe it´s a silly idea, but, like SoF, why not give a water card when removed? Like Purify.

Or maybe do it depending of the turns since played SoP. More cards or a more powerful one every turn you wait to click and remove. Can be +1 Pillar/Turn waited, for example. It´s a bet, because PC exist. It would be a buff and I think It would be funny, too.

Thoughts?
All benefits need to be paid with a cost.
If we give a bigger benefit when it is destroyed then it will need a nerf to balance the buff.
There is no excuse to nerf the primary usage of SoP.
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Offline Totila

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 246
  • Country: it
  • Reputation Power: 3
  • Totila is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Huge by choice, not by chance
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501419#msg501419
« Reply #79 on: May 20, 2012, 05:06:45 pm »
Maybe it´s a silly idea, but, like SoF, why not give a water card when removed? Like Purify.

Or maybe do it depending of the turns since played SoP. More cards or a more powerful one every turn you wait to click and remove. Can be +1 Pillar/Turn waited, for example. It´s a bet, because PC exist. It would be a buff and I think It would be funny, too.

Thoughts?
All benefits need to be paid with a cost.
If we give a bigger benefit when it is destroyed then it will need a nerf to balance the buff.
There is no excuse to nerf the primary usage of SoP.

I agree with you, to me this shard is not UP, simply you need to find a good way to use it, as he said, if we increase the benefits then we will want to nerf the SoP 'cause someone will say that is OP
Yeah buddy!

Offline esran

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 390
  • Reputation Power: 5
  • esran is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501430#msg501430
« Reply #80 on: May 20, 2012, 05:36:12 pm »
this card definitely is UP in my opinion. a good start would be to make it give +!/+1 to regular creatures, and make it effect malignant cells in a flooded area. then i think it would be balanced.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501437#msg501437
« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2012, 05:41:55 pm »
this card definitely is UP in my opinion. a good start would be to make it give +!/+1 to regular creatures, and make it effect malignant cells in a flooded area. then i think it would be balanced.
Cough. Fractal Sparks. Cough.

Malignant cells can reach flooding too cheaply.

Try to synergize before you jump to calling it OP. It recently got a buff.
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Offline ndclub

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 59
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 1
  • ndclub is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Fan of Zanz
Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg501444#msg501444
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2012, 06:00:19 pm »
Maybe it´s a silly idea, but, like SoF, why not give a water card when removed? Like Purify.

Or maybe do it depending of the turns since played SoP. More cards or a more powerful one every turn you wait to click and remove. Can be +1 Pillar/Turn waited, for example. It´s a bet, because PC exist. It would be a buff and I think It would be funny, too.

Thoughts?

I could live with them getting something when deactivated but what you have suggested would give purify to all colors, something I cannot agree with.

Offline tereret

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 186
  • Country: tn
  • Reputation Power: 4
  • tereret is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Nobody is totally dead, Miracles happen
Re: [Official] Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg1215593#msg1215593
« Reply #83 on: November 20, 2015, 05:48:51 pm »
maybe removing the  :water waste?
~Put a cat in a box with unstable gas,THAT is pure entropy~
when philipines is at war, its flag flips.

 

anything
blarg: