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Buff SoB?

No need of buff
16 (51.6%)
Major buff needed: opponent doesnt draw cards
0 (0%)
Minor buff needed: draw cards independently of opponent
2 (6.5%)
Lesser Buff: quanta changed to 4/2
5 (16.1%)
Greater Buff: You draw always +1 card than opponent
8 (25.8%)

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Voting closed: November 14, 2012, 11:37:21 am

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[Official] Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522181#msg522181
« on: July 15, 2012, 11:37:21 am »


i think the card is now useless since the opponent gets the same benefits.. what do you think?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 01:01:38 am by Treldon »

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522191#msg522191
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 12:14:25 pm »
It is kinda UP because it cost you a card to draw 2 (3) cards, opponent draws the same. Which gives you -1 card advantage. But it trades speed for card disadvantage.
Drawing independently from opponent has been proven OP, as it is the SoB in Trainer used to do. It gives a... what? 3 ttw? 2?

Also, this card is buggy. Hope Zanz fixed it, but this is not the place to talk about SoB bugs.
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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522213#msg522213
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 02:57:18 pm »
Fine as is. Just think of it in terms of deck archetypes, and how speed drawing would help each of those.
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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522226#msg522226
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 03:46:18 pm »
It would be too much if you draw 3 cards and opponent draws none. The shard would be OP. I think it's fine. Plus, it doesn't put you in a disadvantage state. Time it correctly. If you noticed the opponent has too much low quanta consumption cards, just reserve this for the final few rounds. Drawing the cards, producing a high damage output before your opponent. This should be good enough.
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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522258#msg522258
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 06:02:13 pm »
Doesn't need a buff. Just because both you and your opponent ge the same effect doesn't mean you're worse off. It is your turn and anyone who uses this card expects a larger gain than their opponent.

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522295#msg522295
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 07:20:47 pm »
You are a rush deck you get abnormally greater benefit from card advantage. They are a stall deck they get abnormally lesser benefit from card advantage.
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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522313#msg522313
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 08:06:57 pm »
as it is, i think SoB is too situational because it depends on the opponents hand and quickly becomes even worse than a precog if the opponent plays intelligently. I would suggest allowing the player to draw one more card than the opponent, this would allow SoB to create a card advantage as other drawing cards do and thus not create a net disadvantage to the caster.

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522314#msg522314
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 08:10:56 pm »
Shard of Bravery will be neutral with respect to card advantage if your opponent's hand fills up and they miss a draw.  Just saying.

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522315#msg522315
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 08:21:28 pm »
Minor Buff is what it was before nerf.
Major Buff is too OP.

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522317#msg522317
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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522318#msg522318
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 08:32:36 pm »
Minor Buff is what it was before nerf.
Major Buff is too OP.

Exactly this.  If it were changed to either one of these, I could easily design a deck with about a 2-3 average turn to win.  That's why this shard was changed to be as it is.

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Re: Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42033.msg522342#msg522342
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 10:12:25 pm »
If by playing SoB your opponent fills his hand then there is no loss of card advantage because he doesn't draw his beginning-of-turn card, and that compensates you for the loss of the shard.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2012, 10:15:49 pm by jawdirk »

 

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