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What Change is Needed

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508462#msg508462
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2012, 11:04:56 pm »
What if we could sell the Relics to make a bit of electrum? I mean a more complicated mechanic would cost Zanz time and we already have to many  :rainbow cards. I'd rather have him coding new mono/duo cards.

P.S.: I voted "sell value higher"

They already do this. They were added to give the player electrum rather than nymphs from non oracle spins.

But hardly any.
They were low because shard farms were easy and plentiful. The amount should be adjusted.

Huh? Shards don't turn into relics.
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508464#msg508464
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2012, 11:20:29 pm »
What if we could sell the Relics to make a bit of electrum? I mean a more complicated mechanic would cost Zanz time and we already have to many  :rainbow cards. I'd rather have him coding new mono/duo cards.

P.S.: I voted "sell value higher"

They already do this. They were added to give the player electrum rather than nymphs from non oracle spins.

But hardly any.
They were low because shard farms were easy and plentiful. The amount should be adjusted.

Huh? Shards don't turn into relics.
Typo.
Correction: T50 permitted Nymph filled decks called relic farms.
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508465#msg508465
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2012, 11:22:52 pm »
What if we could sell the Relics to make a bit of electrum? I mean a more complicated mechanic would cost Zanz time and we already have to many  :rainbow cards. I'd rather have him coding new mono/duo cards.

P.S.: I voted "sell value higher"

They already do this. They were added to give the player electrum rather than nymphs from non oracle spins.

But hardly any.
They were low because shard farms were easy and plentiful. The amount should be adjusted.

Huh? Shards don't turn into relics.
Typo.
Correction: T50 permitted Nymph filled decks called relic farms.

Oh. But T50 no longer exists, so a relic's sell cost should be raised.
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508473#msg508473
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2012, 11:49:36 pm »
What if we could sell the Relics to make a bit of electrum? I mean a more complicated mechanic would cost Zanz time and we already have to many  :rainbow cards. I'd rather have him coding new mono/duo cards.

P.S.: I voted "sell value higher"

They already do this. They were added to give the player electrum rather than nymphs from non oracle spins.

But hardly any.
They were low because shard farms were easy and plentiful. The amount should be adjusted.

Huh? Shards don't turn into relics.
Typo.
Correction: T50 permitted Nymph filled decks called relic farms.

Oh. But T50 no longer exists, so a relic's sell cost should be raised.
Hence the: "The amount should be adjusted."
150 might be reasonable.
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508474#msg508474
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2012, 12:08:20 am »
(Half)-new idea.

Relics work like "card-boxes": you can "open" it for 1,500 g [3,000 g if upgraded] and you'll gat a random rare card. [Upgraded if the relic itself was upgraded too]. In most cases, the relic will turn to a weapon, less often to a Shard - both outcome means that you lost the money you risked, in practice. However, in really-really rare cases, you'll get a Mark or a Nymph...

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg508479#msg508479
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2012, 12:22:42 am »
(Half)-new idea.

Relics work like "card-boxes": you can "open" it for 1,500 g [3,000 g if upgraded] and you'll gat a random rare card. [Upgraded if the relic itself was upgraded too]. In most cases, the relic will turn to a weapon, less often to a Shard - both outcome means that you lost the money you risked, in practice. However, in really-really rare cases, you'll get a Mark or a Nymph...

No mark or Nymph, and this sounds okay...
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg509837#msg509837
« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2012, 07:54:14 pm »
consider these:
when you get a relic you were about to get a nymph but got arelic instead.
nymphs sell for 900+ electrum.
having a well made deck with nymphs is much more difficult to beat than a deck without.
the majority of players with enough nymphs to make an effective deck based around them are experienced enough that any deck they use will be well made.

considering all of this, i think having a sell cost if 300+ (or even 500+) wouldnt be op.

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg509952#msg509952
« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2012, 02:12:39 am »
consider these:
when you get a relic you were about to get a nymph but got arelic instead.
nymphs sell for 900+ electrum.
having a well made deck with nymphs is much more difficult to beat than a deck without.
the majority of players with enough nymphs to make an effective deck based around them are experienced enough that any deck they use will be well made.

considering all of this, i think having a sell cost if 300+ (or even 500+) wouldnt be op.
Except that relic is the easiest card to be made farm. Stuff all your Relic, Nymphs, and Marks (and oh, foil Chimera) and make sure the deck is unplayable (put wrong pillars).
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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg510026#msg510026
« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2012, 05:42:26 am »
Are the people with enough of those cards really going to need to trade farms?
Besides that, would you take a chance at 4-500  :electrum over the last 1-2 rares you need to make that deck you want?

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg510027#msg510027
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2012, 05:46:47 am »
yes, because rares are worth infinitely more than electrum. dont buff relics, its funny as a joke but seriously, they are a selling card. just sell them. JUST sell them. but im totally for making it a useless permanent instead of a useless spell. just not worth zanzarino wasting his time.

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg510032#msg510032
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2012, 06:02:04 am »
Im not saying they are, but again. Wouldnt anyone who has the resources to abuse this be well enough off to not need to anyway?

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Re: Relic | Relic (Poll Reset) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33993.msg510050#msg510050
« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2012, 06:53:13 am »
Im not saying they are, but again. Wouldnt anyone who has the resources to abuse this be well enough off to not need to anyway?

Agreed. These farms would probably be in plat, and there may be a 3 in 500 chance of getting one. Now I think about it, 300 :electrum would be resonable.
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