[Official] Relic | Relic

[Dengeki]

i always thought i should be able to bribe the oracle with one, trade it in when a card comes up that i didnt get. and then he changes his mind for the relic. and an upgraded relic would give you the upgraded version of the card.  i mean since when you get a relic obviously you were supposed to get a nymph- i dont think this bribe the oracle to give you the card is unfair. so thats my "other" vote.
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[AchDeToni]

i always thought i should be able to bribe the oracle with one, trade it in when a card comes up that i didnt get. and then he changes his mind for the relic. and an upgraded relic would give you the upgraded version of the card.  i mean since when you get a relic obviously you were supposed to get a nymph- i dont think this bribe the oracle to give you the card is unfair. so thats my "other" vote.
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That would be nice actually 

[xdude]

i always thought i should be able to bribe the oracle with one, trade it in when a card comes up that i didnt get. and then he changes his mind for the relic. and an upgraded relic would give you the upgraded version of the card.  i mean since when you get a relic obviously you were supposed to get a nymph- i dont think this bribe the oracle to give you the card is unfair. so thats my "other" vote.

I... I actually like this

[mono-rainbow]

i always thought i should be able to bribe the oracle with one, trade it in when a card comes up that i didnt get. and then he changes his mind for the relic. and an upgraded relic would give you the upgraded version of the card.  i mean since when you get a relic obviously you were supposed to get a nymph- i dont think this bribe the oracle to give you the card is unfair. so thats my "other" vote.
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voted for this in the poll.
This is a really really nice idea. 

[DesiredNinja]

Maybe have it upgraide to a random card?

[bogtro]

Maybe have it upgraide to a random card?

I had this idea a while back, but I don't see there being any advantage to this over just buying the card and upgrading it.

Here's my pet idea for Relics: Upgrade to a random non-upgraded rare.

[furballdn]

Maybe have it upgraide to a random card?

I had this idea a while back, but I don't see there being any advantage to this over just buying the card and upgrading it.

Here's my pet idea for Relics: Upgrade to a random non-upgraded rare.

1.5k for a random unupped rare?  ???

[Scaramanga]

Or you can use it to transform an upgraded nymph to unupgraded. And with an upgraded relic transform unupgraded nymph to upgraded.

Since not many will have 6 upgraded and 6 non-upgraded nymphs in a while..

[Avenger]

Sigh.

It's always been suggested to sell relics by Zanz and the community. Buffing relics makes all of that advice become harmful and buffing relics is unfair to players that sold them (a lot of people).

How a useless buff would make that advice harmful. I mean, how a useless permanent would be more useful than a useless spell?

[ZephyrPhantom]

Sigh.

It's always been suggested to sell relics by Zanz and the community. Buffing relics makes all of that advice become harmful and buffing relics is unfair to players that sold them (a lot of people).

How a useless buff would make that advice harmful. I mean, how a useless permanent would be more useful than a useless spell?

From an unbiased and reanalyzed (again) standpoint, this is where Zanz would need to be cautious with a buff to Relic. It's normally viewed as a rather useless card, but some players have stocked piled them over their gameplay (such as johannhowitzer who had at least 200 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23499.0) as of May of last year.)

A) An effective buff to relics (such as making it transform into a rare) could potentially cause complaints that veteran players that stockpile relics have an overwhelming advantage, while veteran players that didn't would complain about being "ripped off".

B) A buff to relic that encourages a player to keep six copies (such as other cards that interact with relics, or giving relic an ability) could be much more or much less problematic, depending on how powerful the induced buff is.

C) An underpowered buff would either result in no change in relic's use or a minor use for 'fun' decks (For example, turning into a random mark card or random pillar doesn't really mean much but I guess it would be useful for events and duel handicaps. Changing it's type into a permanent doesn't really do anything either.)

D) Let it be. Zanz does imply he just wants them to be free electrum and rare placeholders.

My Current Opinion
Option A. : Most Controversial, has the game favor players that stockpile relics (And potentially richer users depending on change.)
Option B : Medium Controversy given that you'd have to have at least 6 relics on hand. Most interesting change as it opens up another theme/mechanic for cards to develop with.
Option C : Least Controversial, and little impact on the actual game.
Option D : Self-explanatory.

[bogtro]

Maybe have it upgraide to a random card?

I had this idea a while back, but I don't see there being any advantage to this over just buying the card and upgrading it.

Here's my pet idea for Relics: Upgrade to a random non-upgraded rare.

1.5k for a random unupped rare?  ???

Well, yeah. Rares aren't meant to be free.

[pulli23]

what about a "respin" of oracle?

If you dislike your spin you can spent a relic till you get a spin you like (or you're out of relics). - Obviously you can't respin after leaving the oracle. This would make the relic good, but stockpilers don't have an enormous advantage.. Basically each relic means an extra "day".