[Official] Reflective shield | Mirror Shield

[MXXE]

There is no way this shield will make you win 8.75% more games. Your statistics are flawed.

I know, I even mentioned that. But it doesn't change my point

Every card has a cost. Logically, you can deduce that the cost of a draw > the cost of 2 quantum. With a golden hourglass, drawing one card costs 2 quantum.

I have no problem with balance. If someone thinks it is OP, I agree, it is OP against unstable gas. Solution: make it cost more or not immaterial or both.
If someone thinks it is UP, I agree, it is UP against spell-less decks. Solution: Make it free to cast. Make it return the card slot/draw by adding "When you play this card, draw a card"

My point is that it is a hard counter to ONLY UG, and a too soft counter to bolts.


Btw:

see this guy makes good points.

Who did you mean?

[memimemi]

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/cards-light/reflective-shield-mirror-shield/

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/cards-life/emerald-shield-jade-shield/


Seeing as:

1) Fire Bolt / Ice Bolt are rarely used for direct damage anyways;
2) Both shields, when they block damage at all, do so less efficiently than Shield | Tower Shield (2 | 5 );
and
3) Neither shield actually reflects the spells that are most commonly used, targeting the player (BH, Silence, Poison, Purify);

I propose that both shields are made to reflect any spell that targets the player directly.

As a balancing measure, I would suggest removing either the protection on the shields, or the damage reduction they provide, if any balancing is actually required.

With SoW in the environment now, I think it only right to have another look at these shields, and make them viable additions to more decks.

[teffy]

The card got a small buff ( Shard of Wisdom - These shields reflect it´s spell damage) and will soon get another small one (Psion does spell damage).
However, it´s still a bit weak.

[omegareaper7]

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/cards-light/reflective-shield-mirror-shield/

http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/cards-life/emerald-shield-jade-shield/


Seeing as:

1) Fire Bolt / Ice Bolt are rarely used for direct damage anyways;
2) Both shields, when they block damage at all, do so less efficiently than Shield | Tower Shield (2 | 5 );
and
3) Neither shield actually reflects the spells that are most commonly used, targeting the player (BH, Silence, Poison, Purify);

I propose that both shields are made to reflect any spell that targets the player directly.

As a balancing measure, I would suggest removing either the protection on the shields, or the damage reduction they provide, if any balancing is actually required.

With SoW in the environment now, I think it only right to have another look at these shields, and make them viable additions to more decks.

Only purify actually targets. the rest are generic.

[radioactivetiger]

Personally, I would LOVE if mirror and jade shield reflected poison

[UnderneathTheLens]

Personally, I would LOVE if mirror and jade shield reflected poison

I feel like reflecting poison would be too much.

[radioactivetiger]

It would be a major buff to light and life, 2 elements that could use a little more of a buff IMO. This would also nerf rather annoying poison deck -,-. Give them a counter other then purify or pure outrush

[bogtro]

IMO, should reflect harmful spells. This includes Poison, Silence, Nightmare, etc.

As it stands now, it is very situational and barely used at all. SoW was a very small buff to this card, and not enough for it to see any real playtime.

[Drake_XIV]

And Black Hole.

[memimemi]

IMO, should reflect harmful spells. This includes Poison, Silence, Nightmare, etc.

As it stands now, it is very situational and barely used at all. SoW was a very small buff to this card, and not enough for it to see any real playtime.

My point, exactly.  After all, all these shields block is Ice Bolt and Fire Bolt.  Blocking the Poison spell would, IMO, be automatically balanced by also blocking Purify.  Also, Life and Light should both, as far as I know, have ways of protecting quanta from BH.  After all, Sanctuary is a thing - but a single slow counter to a widely-abused spell is hardly enough.  Abusing SoW requires at least a 3-card combo (quint, SoW, Mirror Shield, or Anubis, SoW, and SoR or Aether Pillars with MS), so there`s little to no danger of that becoming OP. 

The only possible downside would be SoSe players reflecting poison at themselves and reflecting Purify away.  And that requires using a valuable card slot for MS to block Purify, and the opponent providing one to bounce poison - not too likely a scenario.

Please, anyone who can, buff these cards!

edit: Nightmare targets a creature, not a player, and so should not be blocked.  Sanctuary needs to keep its special place in blocking hand manipulation.

[Guizonde]

last i checked, those shields reflect lightning, shockwave, freeze, and drain life as well.

i'd say keep their weak DR and reflect all spells, including heal. that way, you gotta choose between not getting hit by a huge fireball and using miracle to save your bacon... look at the jade shield: 5 and 1DR, or  7:life for DR 2 the cost is huge, but fair.

maybe give the reflective shield 1DR and just have a cost reduction upped... at least it would see more use...

[Aneninen]

Jade Shield is ok. 7  is expensive but it reduces 2 damage which is good against many small-creature spammer decks PLUS a small but safe protection against any deck which has many Permanent Controls.

On the other hand, Mirror Shield s-cks. Sure, compared to Emerald Shield the latter one is insane expensive (2  / 5  ) - which means Emerald Shield should cost a bit less. But it's hard to imagine a deck which really needs Mirror Shield, while Jade Shield is a fine addition to a Life Mono/Duo deck. A Rainbow deck can chose way better shields, even cheap ones (eg. Fog Shield), a Light deck can chose Hope or Solar Shield instead, except against Shard of Wisdom, both are more useful.

My idea: how about joining the abilities of Solar and Mirror Shields? Reduces one damage, reflects spells, can't be destroyed or stolen AND converts 1 damage from each attack to  ? After all, Light already has 3 kind of Shields, one less won't hurt. Cost? I think, 5  - 3  if upgraded (no other changes via upgrading.)