[Official] Reflective shield | Mirror Shield

[xdude]

Let me say that the trebuchet does not do spell damage. It launches a creature, which is not a spell. If the Jade shield does block trebuchet, it would be a huge flaw.

In general I usually consider both versions, but indeed the unupped version is pretty bad. For all I care the unupped version can block 1 damage, if for a higher cost. (4 - 5  )

The problem is that makes it the same as the emerald/Jade shield, which is not the idea. So I don't see how you can fix it. Just upgrade it, if you want a cheap shield.

Ugh... 1 Damage just doesn't help upped. And the Solar Buckler is a much better alternative.

[Daytripper]

No doubt that is the case for you, but you can use the upped version in a duo light/death aflatoxin deck or in a rainbow deck. If the opponent has no attack other than spells, best is to block the spells.

Mark my words, my blinding or heat fatigue suggestion for a light shield was not so bad after all. 

[xdude]

No doubt that is the case for you, but you can use the upped version in a duo light/death aflatoxin deck or in a rainbow deck. If the opponent has no attack other than spells, best is to block the spells.

Mark my words, my blinding or heat fatigue suggestion for a light shield was not so bad after all. 

Fine. Unless you're using it in a rainbow (why would you, when you have Fog?) or in a Lancer (only to counter an eventual Mirror from the other player, doesn't make the shield look any better), you're gonna use it in a deck which needs more than 10 Light quanta. And then, Solar Buckler is better for you.

[Daytripper]

Eh no, a fog shield can be destroyed, it doesn't block spells, and you could still suffer a lot of damage from aflatoxin. Fog is ok, but it has a way different use.  The Jade shield and the mirror shield are simply superior once you establish a field lock, and the jade shield is more expensive, but stronger.

The solar buckler has no built in protection. It's the shield you would use in a typical light deck. Generate quanta, fuel miracle and such. That's all very nice but not everybody plays typical light decks. After all light has 3 shields! What about hope? This is associated with aether/light duo. Why can't the reflective be a typical rainbow/duo shield?

[zse]

Let's reword the card text a little, shall we?

Weak Mirror. Permanent, cost 
Your opponent may now blow up his Unstable Gases.

Balanced, huh?

This topic is about Reflective Shield. Not Mirror Shield. Reflective Shield stops many more cards than just Unstable Gas, and you know that. So start acting like A COUNCIL MEMBER AND MASTER OF LIGHT not like a 15 year old noob troll.

Before I continue this argument is about the unupped version; not the upped version of the card. I think the upped version is fine if compared to the solar shield.

I agree with xdude. No matter how little of a quantum cost it has it takes up a spot in your deck. How often are you glad you drew this card? Most of the time you are playing a deck lacking in spell based elemental damage (bolts, UG, lightning). In those cases (nearly every game) you will have wished you drew a different card, or put a different one in your deck.

The reflective shield will only be worth the spot in your deck if you know what your opponent will bring, but this is not the case in PvP (cards are/should be balanced based on PvP performance).

If more people decide to use spell based elemental damage this card would become worth putting in your deck. However, despite the unpopularity of this card spell based elemental damage is uncommon. How many firestall and UG decks do you see in PvP? Personally I have seen only one in dozens of games. This card needs some sort of buff in order to become worth the spot in your deck it takes.

So what you're saying is that there is no good use for this card now. Emphasis on word now. If there were more spell damage & Gas decks going around, this card would be played much more.

Cards should be buffed only if they are weak in every way, and thus unused. Reflective Shield is perfectly fine card, that is nowhere near being weak when compared to let's say Skeleton. R.S. can be easily used in any deck with Novas, Immolations, Quantum Pillars, etc. and it can singlehandedly stop one deck archetype that's widely known, but currently underused. Name another card that has such powers. ???

Rewind > Immo rush, Speedbow. And yet it's generally a weak card, ALMOST underpowered.
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[/quote]So playing 1 Rewind has same effect  on Immo rush or Speedbow than playing Reflective Shield agains Fire Bolt Rush, or Devourer Life Drain?  You can't be serious.

[QuantumT]

I agree that the card is rather UP, but to be honest I'm much less concerned about it since Solar Shield received the buff.

That said, I don't think that solely blocking direct damage is really going to be enough to justify multiple slots in a deck. However, I also can't think of a good way to buff it.

[willng3]

I wouldn't mind seeing this card's effect extend to creatures on your side of the field as well as your own HP.  Of course, not to the extent that it functions like a Quint, but perhaps just the same spells normally reflected could be reflected from creatures as well.

[zse]

I think this card is perfectly fine as it is, but if it should be altered, I'd like to see it gaining more reflective abilities with spells or spell-like effects. In other words reflecting all these spells and spell-like-effects to opponent: Silence, Vampire Dagger, Stone Skin, Discord, Black Hole, Holy Ligft, Luciferin, Miracle, Precognition. Some of those on the list would mean big buffs, while some would make huge nerfs - all combined: somewhat balanced alteration. If this modification would be implementedin this way, maybe the card should be transferred into .

[xdude]

Let's reword the card text a little, shall we?

Weak Mirror. Permanent, cost 
Your opponent may now blow up his Unstable Gases.

Balanced, huh?

This topic is about Reflective Shield. Not Mirror Shield. Reflective Shield stops many more cards than just Unstable Gas, and you know that. So start acting like A COUNCIL MEMBER AND MASTER OF LIGHT not like a 15 year old noob troll.

Bwahahahahahaha

Ok,
Weak Reflector. Permanent. Cost 
Your opponent may not blow up his UG's.

Happy now? Seriosly. show me a good unupped deck, excepting the UG one, which this shield helps against.

[QuantumT]

How about this one

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[zse]

Getting of topic, but what the hiccup. xdude started it...
Fat version of bolt deck.

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[LongDono]

I believe cards are made to play against AI or other players, but it must atleast be balanced against the AI. That said this card is more for use against the AI than anything else.