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[Official] Quantum Pillar | Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440592#msg440592
« on: December 20, 2011, 02:06:24 am »


I'm tired of trying to play a rainbow deck and having 15 death quanta and 3- of everything else, even though I have no death cards. It's a tad bit ridiculous, and it's also causing me to run a much worse win/lose rate than I would otherwise.
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440600#msg440600
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 02:13:39 am »
Hmm... that'd make for some super awesome monos running Quantum tower. Hell, all other pillars would be useless.

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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440601#msg440601
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 02:13:59 am »
Gah that text is hard to read. If you have that much :death, you either don't use death cards in your rainbow (you should), or your luck is just bad. Quantum pillars are supposed to only be used in rainbows where nearly, if not all, elements are used. Alternatively, having that much :death just sounds like you set your mark to  :death.

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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440603#msg440603
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 02:16:42 am »
1- QT is considered by many to be OP right now. Your issues can easily be avoided by using a rainbow that balances its use of :rainbow
2- The RNG is the RNG. You can't change the generator, only the way you deck-build. Try posting your deck in the Deck Help section and we can take a look at it. Over a period of time, your results should balance off, anyways, but trying to optimize your deck can't hurt.
3- How would such a change be implemented, thematically, balance-wise, and code-wise? Why is it necessary, given the points stated above?
4- Your poll's first choice should be 'no buff', not 'no nerf'
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440605#msg440605
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 02:17:20 am »
I'm tired of trying to play a rainbow deck and having 15 death quanta and 3- of everything else, even though I have no death cards. It's a tad bit ridiculous, and it's also causing me to run a much worse win/lose rate than I would otherwise.
You're just having really bad luck (There's been many a time where I've lost games just because I couldn't get the quanta I needed with just QT's in my hand for at least 2-3 turns.  :( ) Have you tried using more Novas or Immolations (:fire only) instead?

Quantum Tower is actually one of the more useful cards in the game when used correctly - a Speedbow, it can provide backbone to the Supernovas you use and fuel Growth Cards, as well as continously generating quanta to counter RT where Supernova and Immolation can't. The 3 : 1 quantum is an important ratio because it helps to balance out rainbows (already a dominant decktype in this metagame) vs. normal elements cards (slightly UP vs. Rainbows in the eyes of most of the community unless certain decks are used.) Increasing QT's generation would allow people to do things such as create "shard spam" decks, as well as boosting the already strong rainbow archetypes in this game.

Also, can you please change the text color? No offense but that shade of green is difficult to read on my screen.

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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440742#msg440742
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 02:39:52 pm »
One question: do you want to break the card? because making give you the quanta of only the cards in your deck would do just that.
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440800#msg440800
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 06:22:16 pm »
Bahahaha, I hope you are joking, go 3 quanta pillar!No buff, seriously.
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440812#msg440812
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 06:33:25 pm »
Dunno if this is a joke or not but still voted no buff  to make sure
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440814#msg440814
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 06:40:03 pm »
Dunno if this is a joke or not but still voted no buff  to make sure
Theres no "no buff" option, only a "no nerf" one.
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg440815#msg440815
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2011, 06:42:05 pm »
Rofl i didn't noticed it because it's in the 'buff this card' section..
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Re: Quantum Pillar/Quantum Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34961.msg441379#msg441379
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 01:23:12 am »
My bad on the text.
And also, my bad on the "no nerf" instead of "no buff," I'm used to lurking to Nerf forum.
You all have some very good points, especially that all the other pillars would be useless if I got my way on this one... No buff then. Topic locked.

 

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