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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119284#msg1119284
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 06:35:30 am »
Being able to see your opponents hand is a major advantage. It let's you know if the next turn is a good one to combo off, or if maybe you want to wait to play some sundials until they play that wings they are holding, or hold off on the momentum because the creature you were going to use it on is most certainly doomed. I think it is balanced as is.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119362#msg1119362
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 06:34:22 pm »
The card is good enough as it is. And the ability to see what your opponent has is good, because you can set little traps to waste their cards or etc.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119397#msg1119397
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 08:28:57 pm »
I feel as you get more familiar with the game you start to not use precog for seeing the hand as much as you do drawing. (DM is weird :P joking.) The reason I say this because your more familiar with the more popular decks, so if you just name 2 elements at random and say you got  :fire :air You might expect UG or seraph/dragon with sofree/skyblitz. After the 2nd turn or so youll find out real fast weather or not its seraph or dragon and usually on turn 1 wether or not its freedom or sky blitz. Alright, lets try another two elements.  :life :time Here you can expect the most likely synergy of mitosis and sor. The only thing youve got to wrack your brain for is what creature. I personally do Golden Nymphs which allows for really fast draw power if I have to with sor nymph. Precog has allowed for pretty much smaller decks and to reveal the mystery of your opponents deck 100%. With the  :fire :air You basically have 2 50/50's but precog isnt good when your vsing that  :life :time guy cause your pretty sure what the combo is, usually dragons but it still serves a good purpose cause you find out which critter he'll be spamming. Precog has NO hard counter! You can only deny them of quanta, but costing 1  :time come on man, not too likely you wont be able to use it. And yeah its situational like every other card. Deflag is only good when an opponent has a permanent. ive run rushes and used precog last turn that didnt have any permanents and saw my opponent had 2 explosions and 1 steal, he couldnt hold any defense cause he didnt have anything to target.

P.S. If your just starting the game and the first thing you do is learn most of the cards then use precog it can help you so much as a noob.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119532#msg1119532
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2014, 08:18:54 am »
1. Add poll
2. I disagree

I think it's a small card, but not weak. The information it gives you is potentially valuable tactical information. If the enemy has a dozen kill-spells in his hand, leave your Grabboid burrowed. If they have a steal, don't play your Dim Shield. It is not a game winner, but it helps you play the other cards in your deck not only faster (draw a card) but smarter.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119554#msg1119554
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2014, 12:07:22 pm »
I disagree, after posting on this I went out and made a deck for trickey using precognition and just the raw elements I chose.
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Getting a nymph out asap is nice, you get to see there hand, sometimes you want to nightmare there hand an almost useless creature like photon that they can play so you can draw lock them by playing eternity a turn after. If they keep playing the photons youve not only draw locked them but you can night mare again, this time be sure a creature they cant play by your sor egg. Its a really nice trickery deck cause ppl think its ghostmare right off!
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119575#msg1119575
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2014, 02:47:51 pm »
I disagree, after posting on this I went out and made a deck for trickey using precognition and just the raw elements I chose.
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Getting a nymph out asap is nice, you get to see there hand, sometimes you want to nightmare there hand an almost useless creature like photon that they can play so you can draw lock them by playing eternity a turn after. If they keep playing the photons youve not only draw locked them but you cab bight mare again, this time be sure a creature they cant play by your sor egg. Its a really nice trickery deck cause ppl think its ghostmare right off!

So that's what you were doing with Pots! xD
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119583#msg1119583
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2014, 04:39:23 pm »
Reminds me of this deck

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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119587#msg1119587
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2014, 05:03:43 pm »
yeah but you play mine COMPELTLY different, you play mine to trick the opponent. That one is too straight forward and simple minded. Although its better cause of such higher damage, the trickery allows such huge things. I just got an em today with it in pvp2, not even fully upped. Using only nightmare to heal.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119588#msg1119588
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:07 pm »
Hate to be a mood breaker, but I'm sure this thread is about precognition, and not about your deck.

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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119600#msg1119600
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 06:03:19 pm »
Yup dm, thats why I wouldnt go any further. That deck was built around precog though so I posted it, the reply to it idk why is here.
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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119609#msg1119609
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2014, 07:04:23 pm »
Yup dm, thats why I wouldnt go any further. That deck was built around precog though so I posted it, the reply to it idk why is here.

Actually, it isn't. It has precogs functionalities but it is very different to make a deck that has Precog and a deck that has golden nymph. Golden Nymph will most likely have summoning sickness unless paired with SoR, also has a higher cost, AND is a creature to boot. So really, even that deck isn't quite related to this thread at all. Sorry to break it to you.

This could actually be a good discussion to have in this thread, over whether buffing Precog could potentially make Golden Nymph OP or how it would affect it's functionality, but your deck really isn't based around precog or has anything to do with Precognition itself.

But back on topic : This really needs a poll.

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Re: Precognition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52943.msg1119628#msg1119628
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2014, 08:55:30 pm »
What I do think is a problem is Golden Nymph's ability. Other nymphs have the alchemy spell of their element but at a lower cost. Golden nymph's ability costs the same unupped and more upped than the card itself.

Light nymph begs to differ:
alchemy card cost 2 :rainbow | 1  :rainbow,
nymph ability cost 4 :light | 3  :light,

so its even worse +2 cost and switch from  :rainbow to in-element.

 

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