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[Official] Photon | Ray of Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135705#msg1135705
« on: May 10, 2014, 04:39:07 am »

As of now, the only thing the poor Photon can do is serve as fodder for Immo-rushes. Only its upgraded counterpart can see any part in competitive play at all, in RoL/Hope decks. What about giving Photon a similar function?

Buff idea: Increase cost of Photon to 1 :chroma, and give it the ability to produce 1 :light per turn like the Ray of Light card.

With this buff, unupped RoL/Hope decks could be possible, albeit slower due to the quanta cost. Thoughts?
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135708#msg1135708
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2014, 04:54:27 am »
Unupped RoL Hope
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135741#msg1135741
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2014, 08:04:09 am »
Photon is OP already. 1|1 creature for zero cost, omg! Look at the poor Dragons! :P
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135751#msg1135751
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2014, 11:26:27 am »
your buff Idea makes it better than similar cards (gnome gemfinder and dragonfly),
which have an in-element cost.

If you really want to have this produce :light so badly,
you could go for something like a cost of 1 :rainbow, 0|1
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135766#msg1135766
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2014, 02:22:17 pm »
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Are you sure we're on the same page here? Most of those refer to Ray of Light, not just Photon itself.

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That's a valid point, I didn't think about comparing the cost of Photon to those cards. 1 :chroma for a 0|1 :light producer seems pretty doable.
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135789#msg1135789
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2014, 04:44:02 pm »
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Are you sure we're on the same page here? Most of those refer to Ray of Light, not just Photon itself.

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That's a valid point, I didn't think about comparing the cost of Photon to those cards. 1 :chroma for a 0|1 :light producer seems pretty doable.

Photons being 0|1 for 1 would mean they wouldn't screw your mulligan and wouldn't be affected by fire shield. Those would be 2 advantages over RoL, because of the combo with hope. Since RoL is normally used for stalling I wouldn't say that +1 attack compensates.

If photons generate ligth I think it'd be better if they still were 1|1 and costed 1 :light, similar to damselfly and gnomes.
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135796#msg1135796
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2014, 05:22:03 pm »
If photons generate ligth I think it'd be better if they still were 1|1 and costed 1 :light, similar to damselfly and gnomes.
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135884#msg1135884
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2014, 02:43:01 am »
While being unaffected by Fire Shield and being able to prevent Mulligan, the :chroma quanta cost might be able to offset the advantages. From what I know, RoL/Hope focuses on building Hope up ASAP, so the 1 :chroma cost would consume the :aether needed for Fractal, and after Fractal, it'll consume :light needed for playing Hope/Angels. It shouldn't be that much better with these points in mind.
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What about this?

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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135905#msg1135905
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2014, 07:30:58 am »
What about this?

1) Ray of Light would need to change as well
2) Compare to
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If that change were used, it would require a rippling buff to Ray of Light, Dragonfly, Gnome Rider and Gnome Gemfinder. (Damselfly would be fine)
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Re: Photon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54488.msg1135906#msg1135906
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2014, 07:34:36 am »
The reason I thought of adding a 1 :chroma cost besides adding the :light ability was to make sure it didn't overshadow RoL.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2014, 07:49:51 am »
1) Ray of Light would need to change as well

Not really. This skill wouldn't work with hope, for example, since the quanta is only created once. It would speed up photon/luci/hope, but it wouldn't change phoyons role too much.
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