[Official] Nightfall | Eclipse

[SiiNK]

Always wanted nightfall to be stackable sounds good.

[OldTrees]

Always wanted nightfall to be stackable

I agree. Inability to stack is suboptimal design.

[meowww]

I agree. Inability to stack is suboptimal design.

But then mono Dark won't need anything more than Pest and Minor Vampire to deal tons of damage (and heal), thus Nightfall/Eclipse must increase in cost, maybe to 6/7

[Elbirn]

Step 1: Pestal
Step 2: 6 Eclipses
Step 3: ???
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT!

[OldTrees]

Step 1: Pestal
Step 2: 6 Eclipses
Step 3: ???
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT!

Step 3: Pay back the loan of lots of 
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT! (ignoring the actual cost used to balance the profit)

[Elbirn]

A pestal deck should have no problem paying either 18 (Nightfall) or 24 (Eclipse)  quanta, even assuming some majickal situation wherein the user of said pestal had all 6 copies of said card in their hand at the same time.

I'm a big fan of Darkness, but I don't think it needs this buff. If Nightfall|Eclipse WERE to stack though, it would certainly warrant a cost increase. Doing that could even be detrimental to some decks.

[Calindu]

Step 1: Pestal
Step 2: 6 Eclipses
Step 3: ???
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT!

Step 3: Pay back the loan of lots of 
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT! (ignoring the actual cost used to balance the profit)

Pestal gets the quanta for 3 eclipses in 1-2 turns, sup?

[omegareaper7]

Same suggestion has been made many times, and shot down just about as many. No need to break the card. Though, it could probably do with a slight cost decrease as is.

[Blaze]

Perhaps allowing them to only stack once, the first two would stack but beyond that it would stay the same.

[meowww]

You don't even need Pestal, just Pest and Minor Vampire are terrible enough, maybe a few steal or SoF in case they got light.

[OldTrees]

Step 1: Pestal
Step 2: 6 Eclipses
Step 3: ???
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT!

Step 3: Pay back the loan of lots of 
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT! (ignoring the actual cost used to balance the profit)

Pestal gets the quanta for 3 eclipses in 1-2 turns, sup?

1) How much did it invest in that engine?
2) How do you know the cost of a stackable eclipse? Even I don't know that.

[Calindu]

Step 1: Pestal
Step 2: 6 Eclipses
Step 3: ???
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT!

Step 3: Pay back the loan of lots of 
Step 4: OVERPOWERED PROFIT! (ignoring the actual cost used to balance the profit)

Pestal gets the quanta for 3 eclipses in 1-2 turns, sup?

1) How much did it invest in that engine?
2) How do you know the cost of a stackable eclipse? Even I don't know that.

1) Pestal is Fractal Pests, which is a denial setup, with Eclipse and Vampires for dealing damage. Basically the Pests would provide enough quanta.
2) I don't see in the OP that a stackable eclipse should cost way more, do you?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11588.0.html

The idea which was way less OP than it's showed here was shot down.