[Official] Lobotomizer | Electrocutor

[Seiya]

I am having trouble choosing between removing adrenaline and restoring the original ability.

[Restoring a previous ability would not work unless code was added to remember the order of mitosis, liquid shadow, butterfly effect and overdrive. However restoring the default active skill would be easier to do and is a great idea]

Since this is just adding a tiny bit of versatility without adding strength I think that perhaps both could be added.
For now I am voting on restoring a creature's default ability.

I am as well.  I voted for the ability to remove adrenaline simply because it should already be able to do that.  However, I don't think that this should be a one or the other buff.  I think both could be added without making Lobotomizer OP. 

[TheIdioticIdiot]

here is why this doesn't need a buff, and if it does need one, removing adrenaline is next to no buff at all...

next to lobo, phase shield is also aether's prized possession, and the only thing it has to fear is momentum, which lobo removes (assuming it's not destroyed), so... doesn't matter how many attacks you have, if they don't go through, it doesn't matter

if lobo is to receive a buff, I suggest lowering the cast cost to 2

[Funkyvenom]

here is why this doesn't need a buff, and if it does need one, removing adrenaline is next to no buff at all...

next to lobo, phase shield is also aether's prized possession, and the only thing it has to fear is momentum, which lobo removes (assuming it's not destroyed), so... doesn't matter how many attacks you have, if they don't go through, it doesn't matter

if lobo is to receive a buff, I suggest lowering the cast cost to 2

keep in mind that it still does 5 damage. If the cost is lowered, so should the damage to even it out.

[OldTrees]

here is why this doesn't need a buff, and if it does need one, removing adrenaline is next to no buff at all...

next to lobo, phase shield is also aether's prized possession, and the only thing it has to fear is momentum, which lobo removes (assuming it's not destroyed), so... doesn't matter how many attacks you have, if they don't go through, it doesn't matter

if lobo is to receive a buff, I suggest lowering the cast cost to 2

The idea is it needs a versatility buff not a strength buff.
It has taken a severe versatility nerf with Liquid Shadow then Butterfly Effect followed now by mitosis and Acceleration.
So how can we increase the versatility without necessitating an increase in cost?
Answer: Adrenaline and possibly restoring the default ability.

[achangeofpace]

here is why this doesn't need a buff, and if it does need one, removing adrenaline is next to no buff at all...

next to lobo, phase shield is also aether's prized possession, and the only thing it has to fear is momentum, which lobo removes (assuming it's not destroyed), so... doesn't matter how many attacks you have, if they don't go through, it doesn't matter

if lobo is to receive a buff, I suggest lowering the cast cost to 2

The idea is it needs a versatility buff not a strength buff.
It has taken a severe versatility nerf with Liquid Shadow then Butterfly Effect followed now by mitosis and Acceleration.
So how can we increase the versatility without necessitating an increase in cost?
Answer: Adrenaline and possibly restoring the default ability.

I like the latter better. Just sounds more original, although it does seem to be on the verge of nerfing another in game card - reverse time. The abilites have very similar outcomes, and it would suck to have a chain of buffed cards just because of one "versatility issue". 

Just my opinion though

[DevilLoss]

i think to remove allabilities would make it strong along with mindflayer i say they both need the same buff for having same skill cept maybe make uped mind mind flayer removes passive same with uped lobo i think that is a well needed buff and also for both mind and lobo make them removeaccel and uped version remove passive abilities also ?

[teffy]

It´s clever to distinguish between active and passive skills this way.
So zanz can say, what can be lobotomized and what not
Airborne, ranged , poisonous and so on shall not be removed by Lobos.

Lobotomizer doesn´t need a buff anyway. It´s still one of the best weapons. Count the cards which can be stopped by this.

[TheForbiddenOracle]

I wonder if there should be a card that can stop passive skills? I mean the ones that teffy mentioned shouldn't be changed, but what about voodoo and pests, etc?

[OldTrees]

I wonder if there should be a card that can stop passive skills? I mean the ones that teffy mentioned shouldn't be changed, but what about voodoo and pests, etc?

As a rule passives should be untouchable.
Specific passives may have a reason to break this rule through specific mechanics like web.
I see no reason for inherent characteristics like ranged, poisonous, undead and voodoo to break the rule.
Airborne already does break the rule through web.
Devouerer may or may not have reason. As of now I see no reason though.

[Metoropolice]

.. ya..  let it able to remove adrenaline & and the other passives like devourer ,,

[Funkyvenom]

.. ya..  let it able to remove adrenaline & and the other passives like devourer ,,

exactly my opinion.

[Captain Scibra]

Didn't bother reading responses, but your point seems to be big on Quintessence.  Perhaps Aether needs a new shield: Electric Fence (cheesy I know) that has a small chance to remove an attacking creature's skill.