[Official] Light Nymph | Light Nymph

[RRQJ]

Just stop doing the math and admit this card is awesome!

No.

[omegareaper7]

Just stop doing the math and admit this card is awesome!

Why would we lie to ourselves? Theres a reason it doesn't see much use, its bad.

[macgawel]

Wait. vs Lobos? *lobotomizes nymphs* problem solved.
Next, using 4 quanta each turn to get 10 healing each turn? No. *points sanctuary and shard of gratitude and divinity and the whole game*
And again, light nymph's skill is only useful for the first use. Reason? Same, 4 quanta for 10 healing is silly.

vs a RoL/Hope deck, IA lobotomize the RoL first
I remember a game when all my RoLs where lobos. I've played Nymph+Fractal+Nymph. The next turn I've activated my "surviving" Nymph, and IA loboed my RoL. GG 

I'm not comparing Light Nymph to Sanctuary or other. Only to Luciferin, in response to your "Aflatoxin and Biolumiscent aren't skill which I need use "more than one time", so in this Life/Light Strategy Luciferine works much better.".
Also, you need 3 SoG or 2 Sanctuaries to heal as much as with a Nymph (the activation cost is unrelevant because of bioluminescence effect ). You said "card advantage" ?

Why would we lie to ourselves? Theres a reason it doesn't see much use, its bad.

Stats (http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php) don't lie : They're used as much as most Nymph...In fact, it's the sixth Nymph, in term of usage !

So, I won't say it' OP. In fact, in the state of the game it's playable mostly in Hope decks (waiting for a Light Bolt ). But it's far from underpowered...

[rosutosefi]

Wait. vs Lobos? *lobotomizes nymphs* problem solved.
Next, using 4 quanta each turn to get 10 healing each turn? No. *points sanctuary and shard of gratitude and divinity and the whole game*
And again, light nymph's skill is only useful for the first use. Reason? Same, 4 quanta for 10 healing is silly.

vs a RoL/Hope deck, IA lobotomize the RoL first
I remember a game when all my RoLs where lobos. I've played Nymph+Fractal+Nymph. The next turn I've activated my "surviving" Nymph, and IA loboed my RoL. GG 

I'm not comparing Light Nymph to Sanctuary or other. Only to Luciferin, in response to your "Aflatoxin and Biolumiscent aren't skill which I need use "more than one time", so in this Life/Light Strategy Luciferine works much better.".
Also, you need 3 SoG or 2 Sanctuaries to heal as much as with a Nymph (the activation cost is unrelevant because of bioluminescence effect ). You said "card advantage" ?

Why would we lie to ourselves? Theres a reason it doesn't see much use, its bad.

Stats (http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php) don't lie : They're used as much as most Nymph...In fact, it's the sixth Nymph, in term of usage !

So, I won't say it' OP. In fact, in the state of the game it's playable mostly in Hope decks (waiting for a Light Bolt ). But it's far from underpowered...

AI is stupid. We should balance PVP first, AI should come later.
And regarding the healing. Bioluminescence light effect is only useful for the first turn, the next part you're just burning quanta for 10 healing. Why the heck would you pay 4 for 10 healing?

And regarding the stats. It's only used that much because it works against AI in RoL/Hope. Once again, it's the AI. Balance in pvp. If the card won't work competitively, there really is a problem. Stop balancing based on AI. The balance should be [improve AI by lobotomizing nymphs and improve the nymph itself], not [keep the nymph, keep the AI, and let it remain UP in pvp]

[RRQJ]

wait, what? the AI lobos rol before nymphs now?  I'm positive that wasn't the case before.  Did something change?

Stats (http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php) don't lie : They're used as much as most Nymph...In fact, it's the sixth Nymph, in term of usage !

So, I won't say it' OP. In fact, in the state of the game it's playable mostly in Hope decks (waiting for a Light Bolt ). But it's far from underpowered...

Most nymphs are bad/UP.  Light nymph being better (arguably) than several other nymphs does not make it an awesome card.
Also, stats for nymphs are unreliable, because they are ultra rare.  Only people who have the nymph and actually tries to use them would be counted.

[omegareaper7]

Why would we lie to ourselves? Theres a reason it doesn't see much use, its bad.

Stats (http://www.elementsthegame.com/liststats.php) don't lie : They're used as much as most Nymph...In fact, it's the sixth Nymph, in term of usage !

So, I won't say it' OP. In fact, in the state of the game it's playable mostly in Hope decks (waiting for a Light Bolt ). But it's far from underpowered...

All i see that those stats show is how underused luci is, as well as the nymph.
6th most used nymph means little, and luci, as i said before, doesn't see much use because its not very good.

[Atico]

wait, what? the AI lobos rol before nymphs now?  I'm positive that wasn't the case before.  Did something change?

When I played deck with LightNymph AI lobo Nymph skill at first, but when You had 2 Nymphs, he lobo one of them, then You use Luciferase and second Nymph got "light". Then AI lobo Nymph with "light" instead luciferase.

[RRQJ]

wait, what? the AI lobos rol before nymphs now?  I'm positive that wasn't the case before.  Did something change?

When I played deck with LightNymph AI lobo Nymph skill at first, but when You had 2 Nymphs, he lobo one of them, then You use Luciferase and second Nymph got "light". Then AI lobo Nymph with "light" instead luciferase.

Oh.  That I think I remember happening.

[macgawel]

And regarding the healing. Bioluminescence light effect is only useful for the first turn, the next part you're just burning quanta for 10 healing. Why the heck would you pay 4 for 10 healing?

False, false and false !
In RoL/Hope you can use bioluminescence nearly each turn for your new dragons.
In  even more, you should use as often as you can - giving bioluminescence to your creatures => feed leaf dragon => mito jade dragon 8)

And I will pay 4/3 to 10 healing each time I need it
It's only 1 more than Heal. But Heal heals 20. But Nymph heals each time I pay for it (card advantage).

AI is stupid. We should balance PVP first, AI should come later.

I agree.
So you say you would lobo Nymph over RoL. So Nymph is better than RoL ?


To make it clear : I don't say it's OP. Light Nymph seems playable in some specific (and good) decks, but it's not a win condition.
Overall, for an Ultra-rare card, I think it's fine - I don't want a game where the wealthiest wins...

[RRQJ]

And regarding the healing. Bioluminescence light effect is only useful for the first turn, the next part you're just burning quanta for 10 healing. Why the heck would you pay 4 for 10 healing?

False, false and false !
In RoL/Hope you can use bioluminescence nearly each turn for your new dragons.
In  even more, you should use as often as you can - giving bioluminescence to your creatures => feed leaf dragon => mito jade dragon 8)

And I will pay 4/3 to 10 healing each time I need it
It's only 1 more than Heal. But Heal heals 20. But Nymph heals each time I pay for it (card advantage).

AI is stupid. We should balance PVP first, AI should come later.

I agree.
So you say you would lobo Nymph over RoL. So Nymph is better than RoL ?


To make it clear : I don't say it's OP. Light Nymph seems playable in some specific (and good) decks, but it's not a win condition.
Overall, for an Ultra-rare card, I think it's fine - I don't want a game where the wealthiest wins...

It's easy to say that the effect is awesome, but the cost of playing it and the skill cost in many cases prevents you from doing anything else.  So your example of using bioluminescence each turn for your new dragons probably won't happen in most cases, because summoning the dragon probably left you with insufficient quanta to use bioluminescence. (This is why the old light nymph worked; the skill cost was zero.)

and just curious, do you have any light nymphs? Try them in the trainer if you don't.  I'm positive you'll find them to be more difficult to use than you would imagine.

Edit:

By the way, do light nymphs even work in rol/hope anymore?  I used to use one in the deck back when it had 9atk.  But I think I tried it after the change, and it didn't work nearly as well (had to sacrifice consistency to be able to put out enough damage.)

[rosutosefi]

It's only 1 more than Heal. But Heal heals 20. But Nymph heals each time I pay for it (card advantage).

Erm, no. 1 card advantage? 9 cost, so you need more pillars. And I'm actually comparing to continuous healing. 3 quanta for a sanc. 9 + 3 upkeep from nymph. Vulnerable to CC. And sanc has an additional effect, same as the nymph. So which is better?
And regarding the deck you said. Try using it. Really.

AI is stupid. We should balance PVP first, AI should come later.

I agree.
So you say you would lobo Nymph over RoL. So Nymph is better than RoL ?

To make it clear : I don't say it's OP. Light Nymph seems playable in some specific (and good) decks, but it's not a win condition.
Overall, for an Ultra-rare card, I think it's fine - I don't want a game where the wealthiest wins...

Strategically, you would lobo the nymph over the RoL. If you will lobo what's better instead if thinking the situation out, you're just like the AI. Argument invalid.
"Seems playable"? I'd say it's just a for-fun card for now. Not even usable in competitive decks.

By the way, do light nymphs even work in rol/hope anymore?  I used to use one in the deck back when it had 9atk.  But I think I tried it after the change, and it didn't work nearly as well (had to sacrifice consistency to be able to put out enough damage.)

Not that good. I only add it when I get bored, but my sanctuary mod is far better.