[Official] Holy Light | Holy Flash

[johannhowitzer]

I've heard a lot of complaints that the upped version of Holy Light falls prey to auto-mulligan, making decks that use it less likely to get towers/Novas/Cremations on first draw.  I doubt this is something Zanz intended, more likely it's an incidental side-effect.

What about raising the cost to 1 random quantum?  The no-cost aspect seems to be intended to make Flash work with decks that do not use Light quanta.

[kurathedog]

Upping the cost makes it a nerf that helps the card...

Perhaps Heal for 15 for random? Heal still heals more, but this would then have better heal/quanta (no infinity jokes here), while not messing with mulligan.

Same problem luciferan faces.

[twinsbuster]

maybe increase maximum health also

[teffy]

No, this makes the card worse.
The good thing is, you can use the upgraded card to get EM in every deck. And how high are mulligan chances in most decks ? Normally < 10%. Even in Immo/Photon Fire Decks. Only some Rainbow decks with Supernovas and little towers seem to have high mulligan chances.

It´s a good card, but only IF you know, how to use it.

I think +15 HP is too much. +10 is ok.

[QuantumT]

One way you could kind of trick the mulligan would be to have it do something like cost 1 quanta, but it also generates one quanta matching you mark upon being played. That way, it remains essentially free, but it doesn't interfere with the mulligan system.

[kurathedog]

One way you could kind of trick the mulligan would be to have it do something like cost 1 quanta, but it also generates one quanta matching you mark upon being played. That way, it remains essentially free, but it doesn't interfere with the mulligan system.

I like

[Rainmaker]

One way you could kind of trick the mulligan would be to have it do something like cost 1 quanta, but it also generates one quanta matching you mark upon being played. That way, it remains essentially free, but it doesn't interfere with the mulligan system.

To be clear, the problem with the card is the 0 cost messes up with mulligan??
Increasing the cost (though it return 1 ) is that you will still need 1 in you your quanta pool to play it.

Moreover, might be too OP 15 HP.
15*6 = 90 HP.
That is 90 HP on a FG with only 6 .
Or 90HP healed with only 6
You need TWICE that much to use Improved Miracle (which heals for total HP, which might be over 200, but USUALLY is 100~160) (Shard + that  card.)

[QuantumT]

To be clear, the problem with the card is the 0 cost messes up with mulligan??
Increasing the cost (though it return 1 ) is that you will still need 1 in you your quanta pool to play it.

It's probably the biggest issue with it costing 0. If I have the choice between getting a new hand and getting stuck with no pillars and one Holy Flash in my hand, I'll take the mulligan every time.

Moreover, might be too OP 15 HP.
15*6 = 90 HP.
That is 90 HP on a FG with only 6 .
Or 90HP healed with only 6
You need TWICE that much to use Improved Miracle (which heals for total HP, which might be over 200, but USUALLY is 100~160) (Shard + that  card.)

Miracle is also only one card instead of six.

[Uppercut]

Instead of buffing this card you guys should be pushing to fix mulligan. Instead of being automatic you should see your opening hand and decide if you want to mulligan or keep.

[OldTrees]

Cost  return . This would fix the mulligan problem.

@Uppercut
Manuel Mull has been suggested but shot down because it would require 1 pregame turn for each player.

[Malduk]

Can I vote for it NOT being super-turbo-mega-OP CC against 2 unfortunate elements?

[Rainmaker]

QuantumT:
90HP damage on death or darkness is still overpowered in my opinion.