[Official] Guardian Angel | Archangel

[xdude]

note i said OVERTAKE. light is an element that focuses on healing and buffing it's creatures. that's why holy light gives you the option to use it on your creatures. if angel can heal your base hp too then it just gets to a point where it nearly makes life redundant in it's cause. life has no cc or pc, it only has three main attacking creatures and that leaves it only with the capacity to heal large amounts of your hp. now what with lucifase healing you and now the same with white nymph that adds a lot more to the healing side of things. light will overtake life if this continues. bias indeed.

Light has less CC than Life and just about as much CC. Light has 3 creatures as well, one being dependent on another Mark to boot. Life also has Adrenaline which is situationally better than Blessing and Mitosis which is most definitely one of the most interesting (and powerful) spells in the game. Light ALREADY overtook Life in terms of healing, but that's mainly because Life's Healing is only a spell to heal for 20 and... the Bond, which... yeah. Honestly, if you asked me, Life's theme has always been rushing with small creatures, and Healing only an auxiliary tool.

what is this? some vendettarous attack? i won't stand for insults such as "yet another useless post under your name". cool off and come back when you've got over this mood. please inform me of precisely what was wrong with my post.

arrogant? i'm about as arrogant as you are polite

Mmm, there are only 12 Alchemy cards in the game. Do not confound Alchemy card with Spell.

Right... Graboid, Giant Frog, Elite Chargers and the like are DEFINITELY not as strong as the mighty Angels...

Named exactly the most controversial critters in the game... I'm not denying that, but it is a different issue. And I would put the angel in the controversial group also. May not be OP, but has the better end for sure.

The problem is, cheap critters with an ability are not any good, unless you only play it for the ability. Take the Anubis, a perfectly balanced card, but too strong for its own good. I think light has the opposite problem. I would say healing creatures is good in itself, but you need to play a creture for it that has no attack. For sure, I would rank quinting as better than healing. If the angel was 5/6, and upped 7/7, the difference would be normal. (+2 and +1 for the upgrade.) Of course a 5/6 angel must be more expensive, around 5  .

Well, it seems we've came to a common point now. While I'd still consider Archangel only average, we'd both like to buff the Guardian. You talk about a stat buff, which would really be nice, while I'd want a more... fun, if I may say so, buff. Probably this is due to the fact that you don't really intend to use the Angel (and thus are more objective).

Note: I'd definitely agree with cost increases if the Angels get buffed by my suggestions.

[Atico]

Hmm, what do You think about simple change:
Now Archangels can heal to max HP of creature.
Maybe it should heal also above max HP?

So for example:
When we have creature 5/5, after using "heal" it will have 5/10. Today it is impossible.

On the first look it seems like OP, but it really be? Today we can easily buff creature 0/6 and this isn't so popular card...

[xdude]

Hmm, what do You think about simple change:
Now Archangels can heal to max HP of creature.
Maybe it should heal also above max HP?

So for example:
When we have creature 5/5, after using "heal" it will have 5/10. Today it is impossible.

On the first look it seems like OP, but it really be? Today we can easily buff creature 0/6 and this isn't so popular card...

Sorry, not even I can agree with that. Overboosted Armagios, Oty's and the like are just too... overboosted.

[Atico]

Hmm, I don't see problems with Armagio Armagio don't need this change, because it has big HP and You can buff it when Armagio has got for example 2/12... So Armagio isn't a problem, because now You also heal it. This change is good for creatures with <5HP. Buffing Dragon from 12/12 to 12/17 haven't got any sense

But with Oty I can agree that here it is OP... So this is bad idea.

[DevilLoss]

i say let it heal poison counters from both creatures and players a max of 5 for both also give Ga a attack boost maybe make it 3/6 thats all i can see is what its needed for now

[Leo]

7/7 is broken. 

[killybob]

7/7 is broken. 

not really. not considering its price and the fact that it's too expensive to be used as a main attack creature in many (not all) cases. also you don't need a healing creature with a huge attack. that's why i often use the unupped version - cheaper to use and equally effective. personally i feel that this card has no requirements for a buff.

[AnoverX]

Angels are fine, Archangels are awesome. No buff needed.

[EvaRia]

I think more uses for creature healing would be nice.

Something like the Potential card I made would be an appreciable buff to angels.

[johannhowitzer]

Commission | Crusade (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7993.0.html)

Just sayin'. 

[killybob]

it's true, creature heal is a somewhat redundant and useless ability. the only use i've found in it is with overdriven creatures and with rage pot.

[johannhowitzer]

You forgot Armagio virtual player-healing.  And don't underestimate its ability to stabilize a field of creatures - Archangels can be very hard to kill even by themselves.