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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg195556#msg195556
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 04:53:43 am »
The unupped one.. Guardian angel.. REALLY needs a buff.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg195970#msg195970
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 08:12:21 pm »
I'd say just letting them heal Players too (without removing poison) would be the best idea.
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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg195980#msg195980
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 08:20:32 pm »
I'd say just letting them heal Players too (without removing poison) would be the best idea.
don't forget that'd be really strong,spam guardian angels wich are pretty cheap and keep healing yourself
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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg195982#msg195982
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 08:25:57 pm »
I'd say just letting them heal Players too (without removing poison) would be the best idea.
don't forget that'd be really strong,spam guardian angels wich are pretty cheap and keep healing yourself
Yeah, 3 quanta for 1 attack and the chance of 5HP/turn at 1 quanta. We definitely don't have any card which can give you 5 HP/turn for free at only 3 quanta...
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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196014#msg196014
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 09:11:48 pm »
Chock it up to another good idea killed by the card that is Fractal.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196021#msg196021
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2010, 09:23:13 pm »
Chock it up to another good idea killed by the card that is Fractal.
Not really, fractaling Guardian Angels wouldn't be so bad, because of lack of damage, while fractaling upped Archangels would require fractaling RoLs, and would be even less powerful than fractal Devo's + Vamps.
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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196071#msg196071
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2010, 10:31:49 pm »
Archangels are pretty epic as they are. Guardian Angels are meh, true, but IMO only they should be considered for a possible buff.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196235#msg196235
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 02:31:41 am »
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Not really, fractaling Guardian Angels wouldn't be so bad, because of lack of damage, while fractaling upped Archangels would require fractaling RoLs, and would be even less powerful than fractal Devo's + Vamps.
The massive healing potential would be absolutely devastating unless their hp were reduced. But even then...

I think the only buff they need is for their heal to damage death and darkness creatures. Sure it nerfs some specific strategies but give them a greater value.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196253#msg196253
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2010, 02:43:12 am »
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Not really, fractaling Guardian Angels wouldn't be so bad, because of lack of damage, while fractaling upped Archangels would require fractaling RoLs, and would be even less powerful than fractal Devo's + Vamps.
The massive healing potential would be absolutely devastating.

I think the only buff they need is for their heal to damage death and darkness creatures. Sure it nerfs some specific strategies but give them a greater value.
Woah woah... Why are death and darkness the only suckers that have to have stupidly strong CC against them? That suggested buff Angels "need" is tiny buff to Angels, but huge nerf to whole two elements.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196275#msg196275
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2010, 03:00:57 am »
yeah, I forgot to look at it from those two elements point of view. Having the angels heal 5 hp to the player is just as broken though, unless a script was added in their file that made them unfractable.

Hey, why doesn't that script exist?

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196299#msg196299
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 03:36:18 am »
Hey, why doesn't that script exist?
Because there is no creature that specifically has text that refers to a specific card's effect. This isn't Yu-Gi-Oh.

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Re: Guardian Angel | Archangel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14332.msg196520#msg196520
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 11:27:21 am »
I know nothing about Yu-Gi-Oh, beyond its some stupid Anime, and as suhdeserves none of my thoughts. But I do know that fractal has the annoying habit of breaking possible cards, but that could be fixed if Fractal only fractaled limited cards. Like put he text on fractal, "Except cards deemed overpowered to fractal."

 Anyway, script does not mean text. But assuming that such a thing is not possible, then using the angels to heal player HP is completely out of the question.

 

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